RE: Window Crank Handle removal

[Cory Rempel <cory_383@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Am I the only guy here who has never come across these types of window crank handles?  The ones me and my buddies all have are the simple all key type.  
 
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> From: 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Window Crank Handle removal
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:13:53 +0000
> 
> 
> I had the same issue about 2 years ago.. I took pictures of the tool I 
> fashioned from the adivce given by the guys here :)
> 
> http://omaha.timelesstransport.com/remove-60s-mopar-window-crank-regulator/
> 
> Tony Mokomoko wrote:
> > 
> > Yep - know the ones you are talking about, and that's what I was 
> > expecting -
> > but these had nothing to remove. Basically it has a spring clip with a
> > square hole, the same size as the window crank shaft, and the same size 
> > as
> > the square hole in the cranks. However where the spring clip attaches to 
> > the
> > window crank handle - the two holes (the spring clip & the handle) are
> > offset/overlap. As a result when pushed onto the crank are, the spring 
> > clip
> > is compressed until it slips over the groove in the crank arm. As a 
> > result
> > the spring clip is wedged there - and was different to anything else I 
> > had
> > removed. But now I know - all is good. In actual fact, without the 
> > factory
> > tool - you almost need three hands. Anyway, thanks to everyone who 
> > offered
> > advice. My next mission is removing the bright work from the doors and
> > fenders without damaging it. Any secrets appreciated. 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Tony
> > Gold Coast
> > Australia
> > 62 Dodge Phoenix 
> > 
> > 
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Adams [mailto:ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 11:03 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Window Crank Handle removal
> > 
> > 
> > I've never had an earlier Mopar than 64, but if the clips are the same 
> > type that GM used in the 60's and 70's, what I always did was take a 
> > long finish nail, bend about 1/4" of the point over 90 degrees, then put 
> > 
> > a lesser bend in halfway down to get a better angle, then hold the end 
> > with a pliers or vicegrip, push the door panel in, hook the point of the 
> > 
> > nail in the clip and pull it off. Load the clip in the handle then push 
> > the handle back on when you're done. The shaft should be beveled on the 
> > end so the clip will slide over it. 
> > Tony Mokomoko wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thanks Guys - all good info. It was a bit of a mission, but got them off
> > > with a bit of grunting and pulling. Probably what was making it harder 
> > > to
> > > move was nearly 50 years of dust, rust, and just crap between the mating
> > > surfaces. I was pleased to see how easy the internal doors handles came 
> > > off
> > > - a small cap and a nut ... too easy.
> > > 
> > > Back seat is out now as well. Isn't getting all that trim off fun ... 
> > > not !!
> > > No seriously, it is just a patience game. Touch wood, nothing bent so 
> > > far -
> > > well apart front that which was already marked, but I have added non 
> > > further
> > > damage.
> > > 
> > > Thanks ... Tony
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: MO ( Steve Mick) [mailto:micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 5:32 PM
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: Window Crank Handle removal
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I use a table knife with about 1/8" of the tip bent to a 90 degree right 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > angle. That tip is used to push the tab on the spring clip. The sring 
> > > clip 
> > > when released does not come off the door handle. . Flat thin knife with 
> > > no 
> > > sharp edges to tear upholstery. If you could see that a 62- earlier 
> > > handle 
> > > looks like on the inside, you would see how they 
> > > work...................MO
> > > {Steve Mick}
> > > http://stevemick1964dodge.shutterfly.com/pictures/5
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Roger Pettigrew" <dodger7998@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 3:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Window Crank Handle removal
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for misleading you,,,,, I thought that 62 was the change over year
> > > > from the spring clips to the screw,,,, but it must have been 63,,,,,,, 
> > > > the
> > > > tools are not expensive, you can do a search of ebay or even try your 
> > > > local
> > > > supply house,,,,, just put in, door handle tool, and it will bring up
> > > > various type of them, and as was explained you can use most any flat 
> > > > tool 
> > > > such
> > > > as kitchen items (spatula) screwdrivers, hacksaw blades,,,,,,, after you
> > > > get your first one off, the rest will be easier as you see how they 
> > > > work
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 5/1/2011 10:34:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > > thepulpitmaster@xxxxxxx writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I remember right, all you need is a hacksaw blade. You will have 
> > > > to
> > > > push the door panel into the door, slide the blade between the handle 
> > > > and
> > > > the
> > > > door panel until it lays on top of the U shaped pin holding the handle
> > > > on. It is tricky and may take you some time, but it works. You need 
> > > > to
> > > > use
> > > > the saw part as a pushing tool to lock onto the U pin and push it off.
> > > > It
> > > > would be so much easier if I could explain it in better terms, or if I
> > > > could send you better instructions, but I can't. Just keep working it
> > > > until
> > > > one comes off, then the others will be easier. You are correct on the
> > > > seat.
> > > > You need to push it from front to back and lift at the same time, it 
> > > > will
> > > > come out very easily. Have done both of these projects many times. 
> > > > Once
> > > > you got it, you will never forget how easy they are for removal. Now,
> > > > when
> > > > you are ready to put the door panels back on and attach the door 
> > > > handles,
> > > > you put the U pin all the way onto the handles. Line them up with the
> > > > crank
> > > > mechanism and tap on with a rubber mallet, may take a good hard tap, 
> > > > but
> > > > it will go on and lock securely
> > > > You know where to turn if you need help, we are here for you
> > > >
> > > > Dayv in Milwaukee.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 5/1/2011 8:21:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > > anthony.mokomoko@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I'm stripping my '62 Dodge Phoenix (same a 4 door Dart) so it is ready
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > for
> > > > paint. However, I am stuck - can someone advise the easiest way to 
> > > > remove
> > > > the window crank handles?? I have a Dart, Lancer & Polara workshop 
> > > > manual
> > > > ... but it refers to a special tool. Is there another way of getting 
> > > > them
> > > > off without this tool so that I can remove the door panels, etc. As 
> > > > you
> > > > can
> > > > imagine special tools would be rare here in the land down under.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, I need instructions on removing the back seat base. I'm
> > > > guessing it needs a good thump along the front of the base, and 
> > > > lifting 
> > > > at
> > > > the same time.
> > > >
> > > > I look forward to the responses from those who have tackled these 
> > > > tasks 
> > > > in
> > > > the past.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > > Gold Coast
> > > > Australia
> > > >
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> > > Mopar
> > > topic. Thanks!
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> > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. 
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> > 
> > 
> > Jeff Adams
> > 64 Polara
> > 
> > 
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> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --
> > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and 
> > negotiations
> > as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not 
> > to
> > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy,
> > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to 
> > Mopar
> > topic. Thanks!
> > 
> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. 
> > 
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