Oops caught by the moderator..... --- On Thu, 8/19/10, JJ <jchistia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: JJ <jchistia@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: sending unit > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 10:00 AM > > Please start a new thread on tranny issues. The > subject of this one is "sending unit". > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Ollie" <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:53 AM > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: sending unit > > > > > Yes Rich, same thing happened to my 727 last winter, > nice puddle of trans fluid on the floor. My buddies C-4, 66 > Mustang suffered the same woo's. Both filled and working > good. > > Life as a Rodder! > > Ollie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Kinsley" > <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:28 AM > > Subject: RE: sending unit > > > > > >> > >> I have been coerced into working on a '79 'Vette. > Something of interest > >> to us perhaps has been pointed out to me by my > Chevy boy cousin. Namely > >> that when setting for long periods of time the > converter drains back > >> into the transmission and forces the excess fluid > out the front seal. > >> The 'Vette was leaking severely, lost so much > fluid it wouldn't move. > >> Cuz said, "Fill it, drive it, it'll be OK". I > found this to be true. It > >> quit leaking and is functioning properly. Now will > this be the same for > >> our 727's/904's??? > >> > >> PS: The 'Vette work has netted me some nice Mopar > stuff, front wheels!!! > >> > >> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly > w/goodies > >> > ==================================================================== > >> William Harrison wrote: > >>> > >>> Took the tank out again and removed the > sending unit. > >>> I attached a jumper wire to the hot wire and a > ground wire from the unit > >>> to= > >>> the frame close to the ignition switch. > >>> Turned the key on and lifted the > float....Nothing......But, noticed a > >>> sligh= > >>> t movement when the float was down so I > reversed the position of the > >>> rheost= > >>> at and lifted the float and got movement of my > gas gauge. > >>> Put it all back together and re=3Dinstalled > the tank and attached the > >>> groun= > >>> d strap to the frame, turned the key on > and.......not working, said fuck > >>> it= > >>> and started the car and did some timing > and idle adjustments and took > >>> the = > >>> car out on the road..... > >>> Ran hot and the transmission isn't > shifting right.....Said fuck it > >>> again a= > >>> nd parked it....Then found a transmission > fluid drip right under the > >>> area o= > >>> f the transmission that indicates the front > seal is leaking......So now > >>> the= > >>> lack of a working fuel gauge is the > least of my worries. > >>> Gonna set the car on jack stands and remove > the tranny and replace the > >>> fron= > >>> t seal and while it is out I am going to put > the stock converter back in > >>> an= > >>> d get the 10 inch high stall converter rebuilt > and put it on the 496 > >>> stroke= > >>> r motor. > >>> Later > >>> Bill Harrison > >>> 65 Coronet 2 dr post > >>> > >>> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > From: Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> > Subject: Re: sending unit > >>> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:53 > PM > >>> >=20 > >>> > I have been reading every E mail > regarding the fuel gauges. > >>> > I have a fuel gauge problem in MS > Cruiser. > >>> > I have a stock fuel sender unit that I > bought from Kramer. > >>> > The better, more expensive,=C2=A0 made in > USA one. So I was > >>> > told > >>> > I am using autometer gauges....straight > 12V > >>> > When I bought the sending unit Cindy told > me to use the > >>> > 80-100 gauge. That is a GM gauge. (please > correct me if I am > >>> > wrong on the ohms) I did ask the ohms of > the sending unit as > >>> > I knew I was going to use autometer not > stock. > >>> > I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full. > Does not move off > >>> > full till you are down to 5 gallons in > the tank. Drops > >>> > rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 tank you are > walking. I will not > >>> > run out of gas. > >>> > About a year ago I started a discussion > on the ohms reading > >>> > of our senders. The 4/74 is correct. I > beleive this after > >>> > reasearch. Light goes off, wrong gauge!! > I bought a Chrysler > >>> > ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges. > NOTHING !! Went > >>> > back to old relayable...if the gauge > reads 1/2 STOP > >>> > IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !! > >>> > I have tried grounding, nothing more that > holding up a wire > >>> > while wife operates key and reports > results. Nothing ,, but > >>> > maybe not a good ground? > >>> > Gary H made a post regarding the ground > strap. I looked in > >>> > my shop manual no info. I never had one > on MS Cruiser. Now > >>> > it has been explained better. > >>> > Someone also made a post regarding the > contact on the coil > >>> > of the sending unit..need to check this. > >>> > So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it > makes you feel > >>> > better, no gauge on the Petty Car, just > open the 8 gal fuel > >>> > cell and look. My Rambler has a note pad > on the rear view > >>> > mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up > every 200 miles. > >>> > Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich > says "Having Fun > >>> > Yet?" > >>> > Ollie > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" > <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM > >>> > Subject: Re: sending unit > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a > ground strap made > >>> > of heavy tin > >>> > that snapped over the fuel line and the > nipple on the > >>> > sender bridging the > >>> > rubber hose thus the ground from the > factory.=C2=A0 A lot > >>> > of people removed them > >>> > not realizing what they are or they just > biodegraded and > >>> > fell off.=C2=A0 You may > >>> > get lucky and get a temporary ground > through the straps and > >>> > the locking ring > >>> > but the slightest corrosion will cancel > that out, much like > >>> > on a dirty > >>> > battery terminal.=C2=A0 It is called > electrolytic corrosion > >>> > caused by two > >>> > dissimilar metals in contact with each > other.=C2=A0 The > >>> > corrosion is a good > >>> > insulator!=C2=A0 Look at it like the > metals don't like each > >>> > other and build up a > >>> > barrier so they don't have to touch each > other!=C2=A0 I > >>> > believe Gary H had a link > >>> > to the re-pop of the factory ground > bridge on here not long > >>> > ago if you want > >>> > to go that route.=C2=A0 For now what I > would do (It ant > >>> > pretty but) is get two > >>> > hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece > of wire that need > >>> > not be insulated > >>> > Hose clamp the wire to the nipple > between the hose and > >>> > base of the sender, > >>> > jump over the hose to the fuel line clean > it up and hose > >>> > clamp the wire to > >>> > the fuel line.=C2=A0 That should work as > a ground just fine > >>> > but, grounding it to > >>> > the frame also will be even better.=C2=A0 > That will give > >>> > you a three point ground > >>> > if your with me!=C2=A0 Now if you have a > flashing test > >>> > light at the wire in the > >>> > back and a good connection to your sender > I bet your gauge > >>> > will work!=C2=A0 Let > >>> > me know how this works. > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF > =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF > >>> > =EF= > >>> =BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF > =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF > >>> > Herb > >>> >=20 > >>> > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361 > >>> > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly > >>> > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly > >>> > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six > >>> > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L > >>> > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361 > >>> > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L > >>> > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L > >>> > St. Louis, MO. > >>> >=20 > >>> > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >>> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 GOD Drives > >>> > a Plymouth > >>> >=20 > >>> > ".... GOD, in his FURY, drove them forth > from Eden...." > >>> >=20 > >>> > Genesis 3:23 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > -------Original Message------- > >>> >=20 > >>> > From: William Harrison > >>> > Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM > >>> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> > Subject: Re: sending unit > >>> >=20 > >>> > Herb > >>> > The unit is supposed to be grounded by > the locking ring but > >>> > it could be that > >>> > it is not working. > >>> > I just now remembered that after I had > the underside of the > >>> > car sand blasted > >>> > I then painted it with a por 15 type of > paint and I also > >>> > lined the top of > >>> > the tank area with rubber, so it could be > that I don't have > >>> > a ground....Doh. > >>> >=20 > >>> > I will attach a separate ground wire > today. > >>> > Thanks > >>> > Bill > >>> > - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >=20 > >>> > > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> > > Subject: Re: sending unit > >>> > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, > 10:12 AM > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > Are you grounding the sender to the > fuel line or > >>> > frame, or > >>> > > both?=C2=A0 I'm > >>> > > talking grounding the Sender it's > self not the tank! > >>> > > The sender is usually > >>> > > insulated by the O ring=C2=A0 I > belive you said you > >>> > had a > >>> > > flashing light when > >>> > > testing at the sender wire at the > back? > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > -------Original Message------- > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > From: William Harrison > >>> > > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM > >>> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> > > Subject: sending unit > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > I am to the point that I am really > ready to take a BFH > >>> > to > >>> > > my 65 Coronet. > >>> > > I replaced the gas tank sending unit > and the gauge > >>> > and > >>> > > still no reading. > >>> > > It just can't be 2 new sending units > in a row can > >>> > it?? > >>> > > Thoughts??? > >>> > > Thanks > >>> > > Bill Harrison > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > ---- > >>> > > Please address private mail -- mail > of interest to > >>> > only one > >>> > > person -- > >>> > > directly to that person.=C2=A0 I.e., > send parts/car > >>> > > transactions and negotiations > >>> > > as well as other personal messages > only to the > >>> > intended > >>> > > recipient, not to > >>> > > the Clubhouse public address. This > practice will > >>> > protect > >>> > > your privacy, > >>> > > reduce the total volume of mail and > fine tune the > >>> > content > >>> > > signal to Mopar > >>> > > topic.=C2=A0 Thanks! > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse > Discussion Guidelines: > >>> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > >>> > > http://www > >>> > > > 1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message > have been removed] > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > ---- > >>> > > Please address private mail -- mail > of interest to > >>> > only one > >>> > > person -- directly to that > person.=C2=A0 I.e., send > >>> > > parts/car transactions and > negotiations as well as > >>> > other > >>> > > personal messages only to the > intended recipient, not > >>> > to the > >>> > > Clubhouse public address. This > practice will protect > >>> > your > >>> > > privacy, reduce the total volume of > mail and fine tune > >>> > the > >>> > > content signal to Mopar topic.=C2=A0 > Thanks! > >>> > >=20 > >>> > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse > Discussion Guidelines: > >>> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > >>> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> > >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > ---- > >>> > Please address private mail -- mail of > interest to only one > >>> > person --=C2=A0 directly to that > person.=C2=A0 I.e., send > >>> > parts/car transactions and negotiations > as well as other > >>> > personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the > >>> > Clubhouse public address. This practice > will protect your > >>> > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail > and fine tune the > >>> > content signal to Mopar topic.=C2=A0 > Thanks! > >>> >=20 > >>> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > Guidelines: > >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > ---- > >>> > Please address private mail -- mail of > interest to only one > >>> > person -- directly to that person.=C2=A0 > I.e., send > >>> > parts/car transactions and negotiations > as well as other > >>> > personal messages only to the intended > recipient, not to the > >>> > Clubhouse public address. This practice > will protect your > >>> > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail > and fine tune the > >>> > content signal to Mopar topic.=C2=A0 > Thanks! > >>> >=20 > >>> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > Guidelines: > >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly > w/goodies > >> > >> > >> ---- > >> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to > only one person -- directly to that person. > I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well > as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, > not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will > protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and > fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > >> > >> 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > Guidelines: > >> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ---- > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to > only one person -- directly to that person. > I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well > as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, > not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will > protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and > fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > > > > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one > person -- directly to that person. I.e., send > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other > personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the > Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > >