Re: old mopars drying up?

[Dave64 <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx>]

Neal,

Another fellow class of '81 grad, here.  I've always felt fortunate to have been born when I was.  I used to think I was born 10 year late, but I'm good with it knowing how lucky we were to get our licenses in '79.  We had all of these awesome 10-15 year old cars that were just older used cars at the time.  My first car was a '70 GTX - I drove it to HS every day.  What a blast we had!  We had Cudas, Chargers, Challengers, Super Bees, Roadrunners - and even all the Ford and Chevy cars too.  I feel a little sorry for the current generation who is left to the tuner cars as their hotrods.  I guess it's a least something for them - but not my cup of tea.  I used to be Mopar or no car (still am), but now I can even appreciate an old Camaro or Vette.  It's just nice to see anything old like that being preserved and used.  We were lucky, though - we were in the middle era of those cars being afordable used cars - not brand new, and not out of reach collectibles.
  I still would have liked to have been driving back when you could order a Max Wedge Mopar from the dealer, though!

Dave

--- On Sun, 6/27/10, Neal <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Neal <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: old mopars drying up?
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:23 PM
> 
> good thoughts guys, but to play devils advocate heres a
> though: when i
> graduated high school in '81, ( I'm 46, probably a bit
> younger than
> most here) we thought the old rods and lead sleds 
> were for losers and
> now  they seem to have made a comeback , albeit
> through the rat rod
> thing . I even like them now and back when I was
> young  I wouldnt even
> turn my head to look at them, except to say something nasty
> .maybe,
> But still they have come back, so maybe there could be a
> second wind
> down the road for our cars. This of course assumes that
> they are dying
> out in interest, maybe, maybe not, as i said befoore with
> current
> economy woes it's hard to say.
>   Oh well, regardless of where current reality lies I
> like my old cars
> and love working on them. I consider myself fortunate to
> have been in
> the last generation of "cruisers" around here. Got my first
> Mopar in
> fall of '81 (  it  was a Butterscotch  71
> cuda with 75000 miles for
> 1800 bucks turnkey and drive away) and enjoyed  about
> 4 years of
> "cruisin' the gut" every friday and saturday night, till
> drunken
> rowdies and flowerbed urinating goons ruined it for
> everyone and the
> cops shut it all down. So I feel  lucky  to have
> got to experience the
> tail end of spontaneous cruising. Yes , it was probably
> better in the
> early 70s when my big sisters would cruise their '60
> Plymouth Fury,
> but I still had a lot of fun on those friday and saturday
> nights
> Memories of a lifetime.
>  Now I talk to young kids about the gut and they just stare
> at you,
> their whole idea of cruising is organized shows once a year
> with
> cruising " events". I tell them about the "old days, when
> the rage was
> Pro Street.They can't believe the mad thrash we used to go
> through to
> take the car apart Sunday morning  for your next
> upgrade and get it
> all back together by the next Friday nite. Wish I had some
> of that
> energy now. LOL
>   neal zimmerman, eugene oregon
> 
> On 6/27/10, Dooner Funderburk <doonerfunderburk@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff, I'm glad you enjoyed.
> >
> > The thing is, it all boils down to what makes you
> happy. If you don't enjoy
> > it, it ain't worth it. If thinking about the history
> is what does it for
> > you, that's the way you should go about this hobby.
> Me? I would be happiest,
> > if everyone had an old car that they loved, and
> everyone got together to
> > make it the best car for them (fantasy world). I would
> love to see at least
> > one day a month, where there are so many old cars on
> the road, that everyone
> > that doesn't have one, pulls over and gets out of
> their car and watches them
> > go by.
> >
> > And see, you get the thumbs up. Doesn't matter who you
> are and what you look
> > like, 9 times out of 10, you are going to get a
> positive reaction.
> >
> > For being the last generation that loves these cars,
> it saddens me when my
> > boys point to a four door car from the 80s and 90s and
> says, "Look Daddy,
> > there is a car like yours." I have to remember that
> those are old cars to
> > them.
> >
> > Have fun and enjoy that old car.
> > Dooner
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Jeff Adams" <ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 1:02 PM
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: old mopars drying up?
> >
> >>
> >> I liked your response Dooner... pretty clever at
> the end. I've always
> >> looked at my Polara as a piece of history,
> wondered where it has been,
> >> how many family vacations, etc. Sometimes I think
> it sure would be
> >> easier and cheaper to build a late model muscle
> car, but then I think it
> >> would look just like a lot of other cars on the
> road. Every time I drive
> >> mine, I either get a thumbs up or looks from
> people on the street. I see
> >> myself as just the current caretake of the car (as
> mentioned here
> >> before) and someday when I can no longer drive it,
> I hope the next owner
> >> will look at it the same way. I agree that for the
> most part we are the
> >> last generation to look at these cars the way we
> do, and that's a shame.
> >> The more of these old cars we pull from the weeds
> and save, the more of
> >> them on the street, and hopefully the odds of
> getting some younger
> >> people's attention will go up. But even if that's
> not the case, we have
> >> saved some history, shared, and enjoyed it through
> OUR lives, and that's
> >> made the whole trip worthwhile to me! Fell off my
> soapbox, so I guess
> >> I'm done now.
> >>
> >> Harold Dooner Funderburk wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is just my opinion on ALL old cars dying
> out.
> >>>
> >>> Everybody always seems to go the show car or
> original (worth more $$$)
> >>> route. Not too many people build drivers. I
> want mine for driving, not
> >>> for
> >>> show or resale.
> >>> Also, I feel that the original route is bad.
> Let's just say, that one of
> >>> you
> >>> guys come up with a bad heart. The doctor says
> he can easily fix/replace
> >>> it.
> >>> You can either choose one of the same year
> model (same age as you, just
> >>> taken care of a little better), or you can get
> a younger, more powerful
> >>> one,
> >>> that will last a long time. Which would you
> choose? Don't you think, if
> >>> that
> >>> old car could talk, she would choose the
> younger more powerful one?
> >>> Then after the doctor fixes you, do you want
> to go home and have a great
> >>>
> >>> life, OR do you want to be put in a nursing
> home where you and your
> >>> fixes
> >>> can just sit there and wither away. I don't
> think that old car would
> >>> just
> >>> choose to be locked in the garage.
> >>>
> >>> I LOVE old cars. Not for the history, but for
> the style. New cars just
> >>> don't
> >>> have the style that old cars have (why do you
> think they are trying to
> >>> make
> >>> Challengers and Camaros look so much like the
> old ones). But the old
> >>> cars
> >>> don't have the technology that new cars do. So
> take an old stylish car
> >>> and
> >>> modernize it. Go with fuel injection, six
> speed automatic, four wheel
> >>> disc
> >>> brakes, electric fan and fuel pump, and any
> other modern device you can
> >>> get
> >>> on her. Then drive her every chance you get.
> Drive her around the world
> >>> if
> >>> you can. Show her that you really love her.
> >>> And you can be some old wrinkly camel smokin'
> fart, some fat young
> >>> pimple
> >>> faced kid, OR anything in between,...... but
> if you are driving an old
> >>> car,
> >>> you got style.
> >>>
> >>> This announcement has been brought to you by
> the Just My Opinion
> >>> Foundation.
> >>> All opinions are sole property of me and are
> there for sharing, to
> >>> entertain
> >>> you, OR to get you to thinking for yourself.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for listening,
> >>> Dooner
> >>>
> >>>
> --------------------------------------------------
> >>> From: <chymar01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:39 PM
> >>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: Re: old mopars drying up?
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Yeah, I've noticed that as well.
> Especially the last two years or so.
> >>> > I used to find stuff on a pretty regular
> basis(I'm in NJ), but the
> >>> > finds
> >>> >
> >>> > have dropped dramatically. I think we
> lost quite a few rebuildables
> >>> > when
> >>> >
> >>> > the scrap prices shot up two years ago.
> Here it was over $16/100lbs. I
> >>> > picked up an '87 Ramcharger, tok off the
> bumpers, radiator, A/C
> >>> > compressor
> >>> > and evaporator, wheels and a bunch of
> other stuff and still got nearly
> >>> > $500 for scrap. One of the local
> junkyards closed to daily business and
> >>> > started clearing out the old stuff and
> anything heavily picked over.
> >>> > They
> >>> > made 35k in a month.
> >>> > Seems all I can find now are really nice,
> expensive cars or completely
> >>> > trashed projects not worth resurrecting.
> >>> >
> >>> > Mark
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Neal" <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > To: "1962to1965mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:19:26 PM
> GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> >>> > Subject: old mopars drying up?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all, I have been noticing that here
> locally there just doesnt seem
> >>> > to be that many old mopars ( or
> musclecars period) advertised as much
> >>> > or as often as five years ago. Seems like
> the various craigslists
> >>> > cities here in oregon used to offer up
> all sorts of mopars, but
> >>> > lately over the last couple years, u just
> don't see that much
> >>> > advertised. Can we assume that all the
> old Mopars have been harvested
> >>> > or is the economy making people play
> their cards close to the chest
> >>> > and hold out on selling hoping for a
> better day?
> >>> > You guys used to tease me aBOUT HOW MANY
> mOPARS i WOULD FIND IN
> >>> > OREGON HERE FOR SALE, some of which I
> bought, but now its a rare day.
> >>> > Just wondering if you guys see this
> drying up in other parts of
> >>> > the country as well
> >>> > neal zimmerman, eugene oregon
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeff Adams
> >> 64 Polara
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and
> fine tune the content
> >> signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >>
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> Guidelines:
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> >>
> >
> >
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> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car
> transactions and negotiations
> > as well as other personal messages only to the
> intended recipient, not to
> > the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
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> > reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> content signal to Mopar
> > topic.  Thanks!
> >
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> >
> >
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