Jim...those PH8's fit a ton of applications. Darwin/Victoria BC/Canada '65 Cdn. Valiant Custom 100 'vert --225/A833...in a million pieces '67 Dart GT 'vert --273/904...in "enjoying" condition Check'em out... http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/65val/----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Altemose" <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:44 PM Subject: Re: What oil? Rotella T? ${top_text_ad} BTW, NAPA synthetic is made by Valvoline. - Jim Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge) '63 Polara 500 (383) '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge) '71 Bronco On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
${top_text_ad} I think oil and filters are an interesting and important topic. Before putting this question out there, i dug back into the group's archives, and didn't find too much consensus nor an overwhelming amount of discussion on the subject. Oils are changing, so the same info from a few years ago may not be the same today. Like does Rotella T contain the same additives that it used to? I'm glad I asked about FRAM. It sounds like FRAM isn't as good as it used to be and a friend just gave me a few; I'll pass and use NAPA Gold based on the feedback. I'm going with NAPA synthetic 10w-30 oil with ZDDPlus and and a NAPA Gold filter. Any reason not to? A bit of trivia. My 71 Bronco uses the exact same oil filter as my 63 Polara. It's also interesting to me that the Bronco's 302 takes 6 quarts while the Polara's 383 takes 4. - Jim Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge) '63 Polara 500 (383) '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge) '71 Bronco On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM, 65 <65Val@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Can we please not go around the "oil filter quality" block again? The list has done it several times over the years...always turns into an arguement, and, finally, to a political bashing thread.. People will use whatever brandthey want, or have used for years with no problems. Rant off. Darwin/BC/Canada --'65 Cdn.Val.Custom 100 'vert --'67 Dart GT 'vert... Check'em out... http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/65val ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Harrison" <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:39 AM Subject: Re: What oil? Rotella T? The ones I cut apart were from Autozone. BTW Fram filters are not made in the USA anymore. When you can't find American made products nor find a job; thank NAFTA. Later Bill --- On Sat, 5/1/10, MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: What oil? Rotella T? To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 1:41 AM Fram really shot themselves in the foot when they started making a cheap filter for discount stores. . The competitors jumped right on them by cutting those filters into and comparing the famous frams to their better made product. I would not now buy a fram even if they proved that their top of the line was best.....................................MO {Steve Mick} http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mick64.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:59 PM Subject: Re: What oil? Rotella T? In the old days I would only use Fram filters. Saw an article a while back that basically confirmed your findings. No more Fram's for me! Just like Pennzoil, an inferior product with good marketing!! Herb 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361 1959 Coronet 326 Poly 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L St. Louis, MO. http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html -------Original Message------- From: William Harrison Date: 4/30/2010 11:45:23 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: What oil? Rotella T? If you cut a fram filter in half and compare it to "any" other filter, you will find that "any" other filter is better. A few years ago I cut a fram, bosch, mobile 1, ac delco, and stp in half. It was laughable to see the lack of filtering material in the fram. The mobile 1 was the best with the bosch coming in second and the stp filter was better than the ac delco. It is an easy way to find out if you are getting a good filter or not. Synthetic oil is so much better for your engine. Makes it run cooler, much better lubricating and lasts longer. Later Bill Harrison 65 Coronet 2 dr post. --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: What oil? Rotella T? > To: "1962to1965mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 12:18 PM > > Any new opinions on the best oil to use in our old cars? > > I recall there was some discussion a while back regarding > Rotella and > whether or not the formula changed. Is Rotella T > Triple Protection > still a good choice? Is there less ZDDP than there > used to be and > should some be added? FRAM filters? > > How about synthetic? I think I recall Don Dulmage was > not a fan and > thought it wasn't 'springy'. > > As always, thanks. > > - Jim > Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY > '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge) > '63 Polara 500 (383) > '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge) > '71 Bronco > > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one > person -- directly to that person. I.e., send > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other > personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the > Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. 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