I changed the oil pan on my 63/440 w/o removing it fromn the car. I basically had to undo the motor mounts and raise the engine as high as I could. I was then able to remove the pan. It was a b***ch of a job, but can be done. Paul L. '63 Sport Fury 440/727 http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.