RE: Convert AC

[Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>]

I changed to the newer electronic regulator ages ago but when I did the 
Ron Francis wire harness they sent a new regulator, which happens to be 
a F*** unit. The alternator had two field terminals and I grounded one 
to the frame.

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies

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Dennis C. wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 
> When you changed alternators did you use the stock single field 
> regulator and ground one field terminal on the alternator or did you 
> also upgrade the voltage regulator?
> 
> Thanks
> Dennis C.
> 
> 
> Rich Kinsley wrote:
> > 
> > When I upgraded my alternator I used a suggestion from the forum and 
> > went with a '85 Fifth Ave unit NAPA 13-2029. It was $79 with no core. 
> > It's at least a 91 amp. I think I saw it was 100amp but I have it 
> > written down as 91  ??
> > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> > =====================================================================
> > Ollie wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dennis,
> > > Used the electronic unit, Super Gen II, 61005-VUZ-A, (not sure this is 
> > > still 
> > > a good number, bought a few years ago) no need to pull the dash,,,mounts 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > under dash with less space than the original ac/heater unit. Its great 
> > > stuff. Blocked off the outside air.
> > > I had to go to bigger radiator electric cooling fan, Sidewinder from 
> > > Matson 
> > > Radiator, (separate story...Jack was designing it and building it at the 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > time I bought my aluminum radiator from him and we originally went with 
> > > a 
> > > 16" Spal that he thought would not handle the job..and he was correct) 
> > > removed transmission fluid from the radiator which required a separate 
> > > electric cooling fan. I have MSD electronic ignition, big amp...All this 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > combined the stock 60 amp alternator could not keep my battery charged.
> > > The only big alternator in a Mopar case (so I could use my brackets)  I 
> > > could find was from Tuff Stuff. Single wire 100 amp, runs straight to 
> > > the 
> > > battery. Vehicle has been completely rewired so no small wires and 
> > > fusible 
> > > links and voltage limiters all gone. Got headlights that shine to the 
> > > next 
> > > county and no problems.
> > > Ollie....PS  as u can see I am no purist..but I ain't got no 350 
> > > Chebby!!!
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Dennis C." <dennis.2914@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:55 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Convert AC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Ollie,
> > > >
> > > > Nice information on your system.  I have looked at Vintage Air, do you
> > > > recall which unit you installed?
> > > >
> > > > Are you using manual controls or is your unit electronic?
> > > >
> > > > Did you need to pull the dash?
> > > >
> > > > Was the alternator upgraded actually needed or just a very nice thing to
> > > > do at the time?  I don't see where there would be much of an increase in
> > > > current draw, the clutch on the compressor is the only  added item
> > > > unless the fan draws that much more current.
> > > >
> > > > I understand the over heating problem, I have a new radiator, hope it is
> > > > enough.  (might be just a hope and have to shovel more money at it)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Dennis C.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ollie wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a Vintage Air heating/cooling unit in my 65 Satellite. It is a
> > > >> Sandair compressor. It will freeze you out or burn u up depending on the
> > > >>
> > > >> mode. It is a very easy installation. Take out your original
> > > >> unit.....trash
> > > >> it, .bolt in new unit with brackets provided. A bit of fab required. Had
> > > >> to
> > > >> fab some adaptors to use the original defroster vents. (I have the dash
> > > >> pop
> > > >> up units for defrost and air,  as my car was  factory air.) Their
> > > >> adaptors
> > > >> hooked up to the kick panel and crotch cooler vents. If you don't have
> > > >> these
> > > >> their below dash vents are ok. Bouchion Performance has the brackets and
> > > >>
> > > >> pullies you need for the compressor. Hook direct to battery,  1 wire,
> > > >> with
> > > >> provided fuse link, and you are good to go.  You will need a couple more
> > > >>
> > > >> holes in the firewall, factory connections will not line up. Mount the
> > > >> controls inside the vehicle....mine are in my dash, I have seen them in
> > > >> the
> > > >> glove box...... after mounting dryer, condenser and hoses.......vacuum
> > > >> pump,
> > > >> add Freon...
> > > >> Start your engine my Mopar friend, Turn the unit on..enjoy the cool air
> > > >> for
> > > >> a few minutes........as u watch the temp gauge climb...oh my.......they
> > > >> did
> > > >> not mention this in all the sale brochures....!!!
> > > >> Time to cure your engine temp problems.........me...3 years
> > > >> later....custom
> > > >> built aluminum radiator, custom cooling fan, performance water pump and
> > > >> thermostats, holes cut in the hood under the hood scoop......100 amp
> > > >> alternator.....mines running cool......mom's happy and I am in a
> > > >> constant
> > > >> nervous sweat watching all my gauges....
> > > >> In answer to Gary H.....if mom does not want to ride in my classic
> > > >> Mopar...
> > > >> w/classic air, 4 windows down, wing vents open..leave her at home....IF
> > > >> mom
> > > >> must go........buy a new Challenger and lets both ride in modern
> > > >> style......with AC, stereo, heated seats and all the amenities....it
> > > >> will be
> > > >> better in the long run!!
> > > >> Good luck with your AC installation......
> > > >> Ollie.....this has moved way past $.02 ....its now worth $50.......cheap
> > > >>
> > > >> when you consider all the money you will spend on your AC....
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> From: "MO ( Steve Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:06 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Convert AC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I would like to know if an aftermarket A/C will cool enough for a 95
> > > >> > degree day? Also wondering if I took the stock heater out of my 64
> > > >> > DodgeB
> > > >> > and put in a  aftermarket heat-cool unit . Would that be
> > > >> > feasable?.................MO
> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> > From: "Ollie" <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:31 AM
> > > >> > Subject: Re: Convert AC
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Nick,
> > > >> >> Best idea, by far,  is forget it. You are opening up a barrel of 
> > > >> >> issues,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> i.e. temp problems, battery chargering/amps, etc.
> > > >> >> The only option I would even consider would be a complete Vintage Air
> > > >> >> unit.
> > > >> >> Take that money and invest it other projects on your vehicle. You will
> > > >> >> be
> > > >> >> more happy with the results.
> > > >> >> Ollie's 2 cents  (should be worth considerly more...been there done
> > > >> >> that)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> >> From: "Nick Adamski" <labrothia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:56 PM
> > > >> >> Subject: Convert AC
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Hi all,
> > > >> >>> How hard will it be to convert ac in a car that origanlly didn't come
> > > >> >>> with ac. My 64 fury doesn't have ac, I sure would like to have it
> > > >> >>> sometimes. What will be a better choice, try to find an origanal ac 
> > > >> >>> unit
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> or and aftermarket one. Whats the pro and cones, cost and labor wise?
> > > >> >>> Thank's
> > > >> >>>
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> > > >> >>> recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> > > >> >>> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune 
> > > >> >>> the
> > > >> >>> content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
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> > > >> >> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --
> > > >> >> directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> > > >> >> negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended
> > > >> >> recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> > > >> >> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune 
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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> > > >> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --
> > > >> > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and
> > > >> > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended
> > > >> > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> > > >> > protect
> > > >> > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content
> > > >> > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Van Conversion
> > > > 1964 Plymouth Belvedere 318 Auto
> > > > 1963 Plymouth Sport Fury 383 4-speed
> > > > 1949 Dodge Pickup 289/C4 soon to be changed
> > > > 1998 Honda Valkyrie Standard
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --  
> > > > directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and 
> > > > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended 
> > > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will 
> > > > protect 
> > > > your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content 
> > > > signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> 
> 
> 
> 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Van Conversion
> 1964 Plymouth Belvedere 318 Auto
> 1963 Plymouth Sport Fury 383 4-speed
> 1949 Dodge Pickup 289/C4 soon to be changed
> 1998 Honda Valkyrie Standard



Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies


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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.