Fw: Re: Fw: Re: 4 speed firewall reinforcements

["MO ( Steve Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Was the factory clutch that used the over center spring a 3 finger style? I
think they called them Borg & Beck? Can't remember what they called the
stock diaphram style. I remember the diaphram style would stick the clutch
pedal to the floor but the 3 finger was harder to push the clutch pedal down
 Centerforce sounds like the best of both worlds............................
..MO................SW IOWA 
-------Original Message------- 
 
From: bt6t4@xxxxxxxxx 
Date: 2/8/2009 5:11:19 PM 
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: 4 speed firewall reinforcements 
 
It has something to do with a 3 finger clutch and that factory spring and
the centerforce which is diaphram.I took my spring out when put the
centerforce in.No problems. 
 
George 
 
 
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Neal Zimmerman <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
 
> From: Neal Zimmerman <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx> 
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: 4 speed firewall reinforcements 
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx 
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 2:49 PM 
> WHEN I TALKEd to brewers a few weeks ago about ordering an 
> over center 
> spring for my pedal assembly,( the spring was missing when 
> I bought 
> the pedals) , Wayne brewer told me with a centeforce 
> clutch I 
> wouldn't need it. I didn't pursue it any further, I took 
> his word for 
> it and didn't order it. Don't quite understand why though. 
> Neal Zimmerman, Eugene Oregon 
> 
> On 2/8/09, MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > I am thinking of using the Centerforce clutch. Not 
> having any experience 
> > with them, are they about the same as stock in 
> depressing the clutch pedal ( 
> > resistance)? Why do they say to disconnect the over 
> center spring? To keep 
> > the pedal from sticking down under high RPM shifts 
> like the old diaphram 
> > clutches 
> did??...........................MO................SW IOWA 
> > 
> > -------Original Message------- 
> > 
> > From: Don Gallimore 
> > Date: 2/8/2009 12:03:13 PM 
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: Re: 4 speed firewall reinforcements 
> > 
> > In my '65 Belvedere using a Centerforce Dual 
> Friction Clutch, there was 
> > No difference in the firewall versus an automatic nor 
> did I go to any 
> > Trouble reinforcing anything. Shifts including pedal 
> to the wall power 
> > Shifts were problem free. 
> > 
> > The only thing I would say was reinforced was that the 
> ball on the 
> > Fender well side was on a stamped triangular plate 
> held to the body by 
> > Three bolts. The holes or dimples may be there on the 
> body. The edge of 
> > The plate was rolled for stiffness, I assume. Plate 
> was about 3" on a 
> > Side. This is the factory set-up. Check with Brewers 
> if you don't have it. 
> > 
> > Akron Don 
> > 
> > Neal Zimmerman wrote: 
> >> Hi guys , been a while , been working a lot on my 
> "off topic" 67 cuda 
> >> so have been avoiding you. Although I have made 
> some progress on the 
> >> 62 dart as well. 
> >> Anyhoo, this could apply to any Mopar 4 speed 
> conversion , so just 
> >> use your imagination. 
> >> I am converting the 67 cuda over to a new stout 
> small block and a 
> >> 4 speed with a Centerforce clutch, so 
> reinforcements are in order I 
> >> hear. 
> >> The Z-Bar I have totally reinforced with gussets 
> on both arms , so 
> >> that's gonna be sufficient and also on the 
> fenderwell where the outer 
> >> ball stud mounts ( as I hear they like to crack or 
> tear out there). 
> >> I have also reinforced the pedal assembly to take 
> care of any 
> >> flexion in the assembly there- but I still hear 
> that the firewall can 
> >> give u problems. How can u reinforce this area?? 
> >> I am afraid I f I put a plate on the passenger 
> compartment side of 
> >> the firewall it will throw out the mounting points 
> of the pedal 
> >> assembly. I could also go on the engine side I 
> guess but will that 
> >> throw any thing out. 
> >> I did see a plate on ebay that the guy claimed was 
> a factory 
> >> original reinforcemnt for factory 4 speed cars , 
> but I cant figure 
> >> out where the things supposed to go. 
> >> Help!! 
> >> Neal Zimmerman, Eugene Oregon 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
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as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to
the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy,
reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar
topic. Thanks! 
 
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