Re: 1963 SF Over Heating Update

[Don Dulmage <big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Speeed up the fan and water pump with a smaller fan pulley. it doesnt take 
much . 1/2 inch even will completley cure lots of cars.
Don
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis C." <dennis.2914@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: 1963 SF Over Heating Update


> This is my story about how to spend to much time and money trying to
> cool my 1963 Sport Fury with a 383.
>
> My brother and I brought the car back to life in Arkansas, a guy parked
> it next to his house in the 70's and never got back in it.  When we got
> it together I had the original radiator re-cored.  The car seemed to run
> ok in Arkansas but I now have it in Yuma Arizona where I am having
> trouble cooling it in the summer.
>
> Initially I checked the cooling system and installed a new thermostat,
> no improvement.  Then I wasted money and time installing an electric fan
> in front of the radiator.  Not only it didn't help but may have actually
> hurt.
>
> I found a reproduction metal fan shroud at the Fall Fling made by Rocket
> Restoration.  It did not fit, the top of the shroud hit the upper
> radiator tank.  It appears that when the radiator was re-cored the tank
> was installed too far towards the engine in the radiator side straps.
> My education started when I went to a radiator shop to see if he could
> correct the location of the upper tank.
>
> I found an old guy with a small radiator shop.  I told him I had a 1963
> Plymouth that was over heating.  He said I had the wrong style
> thermostat or the timing was off, old Mopars don't over heat.  I told
> him the timing was correct, he showed me a Mopar style thermostat that
> has better flow than a standard thermostat.  I finally got him to look
> at my radiator that I had in the back of the wife's car.  As soon as I
> opened the back he asked who re-cored the radiator.  When I told him it
> was done in Arkansas, he said it would work in Arkansas but not in Yuma!
> He said I had 10 fins per inch and he thought the old Mopars had 16 or
> 18 fins per inch.  He dug through a stack of old radiators and showed me
> the differences in cores from ones like mine with not many fins to a
> motor home radiator that was almost solid with fins.  He agreed to move
> the tank for me and did a marginal job but I have been able to install
> the shroud.
>
> Now I am waiting for summer.  If the new thermostat and fan shroud are
> not enough I'll buy a new aluminum radiator or see if a better core is
> available for my radiator.  Here is the information on the thermostat
> and shroud I am using
>
> Thermostat
> Milodon #16406 180 degree
>
> Shroud
> Rocket Restoration #7423 with #9212 mounting kit
>
> Thanks to everyone who has given me information and help over the last
> few months.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
> 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Van Conversion
> 1964 Plymouth Belvedere 318 Auto
> 1963 Plymouth Sport Fury 383 4-speed
> 1949 Dodge Pickup 289/C4 soon to be changed
> 1998 Honda Valkyrie Standard
>
>
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