Re: Pull through style Electic fuel pumps?

[Jim Altemose <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>]

John,

I recently replaced my fuel pump with a Carter.  I have a 383 with 2
barrel BBD.  It had 5/16 line and I decided to replace it all with 3/8
in case I ever upgrade the intake and carb.  I don't know if it's
necessary to go to 3/8 for your 440, but by my way of thinking, it
couldn't hoyt.  I'd also decided to go soup to nuts and coat the gas
tank with an Eastwood kit.  It all worked out great, so here's my
story.

I bought the stainless fuel line from inlinetube.com (recommendation
from Jim Peavey).  It was $99 and very well made and fit perfectly.
The bends seem nice, not restrictive and it was an absolute match in
every bend with the stock line.  You also want the rubber hose kit for
each end of the fuel line.  If you're upgrading to 3/8, you'll also
need to replace the sending unit.  I bought that from inline as well
for $149.  Again, seems very well made and a good match for stock.

I used a needle nose pliers to 'snap' the old line out of the
fastners.  The new line snapped into the old fasteners nicely, and
they were in good shape, so I kept them.  But the fasteners that came
from inline were a very good match.  You want to snake the new line
from the back up to the front.  The front gets tight in tricky up by
the front wheel-well where it enters the engine bay.

I also had to get fittings for the fuel pump.  It took some searching
but I found them at Lowe's in the brass fitting section.  You want a
3/8 barb x 1/4 MIP fitting (or 5/16 barb if you stay stock).

Good luck.

- Jim
Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
'63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
'63 Polara 500 (383)
'65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
'71 Bronco



On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 5:01 AM, John Hammond <426_maxwedge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I've been following this thread with much interest since I'm currently in a
> similar situation.
> I'm assembling my '64 330 wagon and I'm working on the fuel and brake
> systems.  The car was originally
> equipped with a 318 and a 2something gearset.  It's now got a 3.23 open and
> the 727 will have a manual
> valve-body.  The engine is a 440.  Nothing radical just a basic Magnum spec
> street engine with an Edelbrock
> Perf.RPM. a 750 Demon, Magnum manifolds, Comp's Magnum copy cam, nothing
> trick here.  Built as a
> fun driver but looking for respectible, reliable, performance
> characteristics.  Originally I had planned to run
> a new fuel line... I've shaved the gas cap and going to a fuel cell in the
> spare tire well.  The tank was toast
> and this is a budget build. (Well, it started out that way)  Considering the
> routing which works really well,
> and since it's blowin free and clear with some carb cleaner and an air hose;
> I'm really temped to just leave
> it alone.  I don't want to starve the 440  at all, but will a 1/4 line even
> be remotely capable of keeping it happy?
>       The fuel pump is a new stock replacement Carter,  (Secondary question:
> what size/threads is the output
> to carb:  port for the hose fittting on this? It shipped without one and the
> engine builder tossed the original
> pump).  So anyway, mechanical stock pump, don't mind the electric flow thru
> pump suppliment idea if it works,
> running this through 1/4" line with an inline filter, will it work or is
> this just a bad idea?  While I plan on drivin'
> the wheels off this thing on trips and around town,  I do like to play ever
> so often.  I can forsee the occasional
> stop-light confrontation or a test-n-tune day at the strip so I don't want
> to hurt the thing or get dusted by
> some fart-can laden import buzzjoke.  Please add your two cents on this if
> you have an opinion... I want the
> car on the road, but funds are getting tight and availble time to spend its
> completion has just been drastically
> cut due to work constraints.  Also, if you can compair this to a previous
> similar setup you've had... try to relate
> what level of performance I could expect from this combination.   Thanks in
> advance to all who respond...
> Yours in Mopar,
> John Hammond
>
> 1965 Belvedere I
> 1964 Dodge 330 wagon
> 1979 D-50 ProStreet
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "john althaus" <althausjbl@xxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Pull through style Electic fuel pumps?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Derrick,
>> I run a carter P 4070 on my Hemi with cross ram,  just as you are
>> thinking,
>> I had a Holley, but the noise was a little too much. As others I use  the
>> pump
>> if the car has ben setting  for a period or if I'm going to get a  heavy
>> foot, other wise we just rump along on the mechanical pump. Works just
>> fine.
>>
>> John  Althaus
>> 1541 Parkside Trail
>> Lewisville, TX 75077
>> 214-673-7540 cell
>
>


----
Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.