Re: 1963 Fender Tag Engine Code??

[Bill Watson <wwatson6@xxxxxxx>]

For a 1963 model, it matters not if it is a 330, 440 or Polara - the engine 
availability was the same for all three 1963 Dodge series.

Although the engine code on the tag is "02", etc., the full sales code is 
"502".   Thus the zero does mean something - it is the second digit of the 
full sales code.

The standard engine on the Valiant and Lancer was the 170 slant six, on a 
Plymouth 6 or Dodge 6 - the 225 slant six,  and on a Plymouth V8 or Dodge 
V8 - 318 V8.  Thus if there is no engine code on the Lynch Road or Hamtramck 
cars, the car would have one of the base engines as listed above.

The list of engines for 1963 :

Sales
Code         Engine             Tag No.

502     225-cid 6                    02
503     361-cid V8                 03
504     383-cid V8, 2-bbl       04
505     383-cid V8, 4-bbl       05
506     413-cid V8                 06
509     426-cid V8, 415bhp   09
519     426-cid V8, 425bhp   19

The 225-cid slant six was optional on the Valiant and Dart, and as the 318 
was not an optional engine on any car, no number appears for it in lists.

The Los Angeles tags apparently had a single digit, and thus the codes would 
be "2", "3", "4", "5" or "6".   As the 426-cid engines were not installed in 
LA-built cars, "9" was not used and there was no need to have a code for 
either 509 or 519 engines.

The Hamtramck plant had the engine codes under QR, thus the code under the Q 
would be either "0" or "1".   And the codes under the R would be "3", "4", 
"5", "6" or "9" if the Q was "0" and only "9" if the Q was "1"

Which leads to the question, what appeared on the Lynch Road tag if the 
engine sales code was 519?  Did both 509 and 519 engines have "9" under the 
A with no way of determining which vesion of the 426 is under the hood?

Bill
Vancouver, BC



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcus Edell" <marcusedell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: 1963 Fender Tag Engine Code??


> I'm lost now .... a 318 according to what you wrote is a 07.. so what 
> you're saying is a 0 just means nothing and that it was a standard base 
> model 318 engine? but my car is a 63 Dodge 440 not a Polara...
> --
> Marcus"Hot Rod"Edell-The RevTones www.myspace.com/revtones 
> www.revtones.net
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > These numbers will appear in two digit format on Hamtramck and Lynch Road
> > tags, and a single digit on Los Angeles tags. Not listed here is a 170cid
> > six because if an A-body is equipped with this engine, the engine code 
> > area
> > will be blank, indicating the standard engine for that model. Also, 
> > Polara's
> > and Belvedere's came standard with a 318cid V8, so it would also be blank 
> > if
> > so equipped.
> >
> > So it looks like the 0 under Q is a 318? Wouldn't it be 04 or 05 for a 
> > 383.
> >
> >
> > Engine Lynch Rd
> > Hamtramck
> >
> > 145hp 225 1bbl 02
> > 230hp 318 2bbl 07
> > 265hp 361 2bbl 03
> > 305hp 383 2bbl 04
> > 330hp 383 4bbl 05
> > 415hp 426 2x4bbl 09
> > 425hp 426 2x4bbl 19
> >
> > Herb
> >
> > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> > 1970 Challenger RT 440
> > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9
> > 2006 300-C Heritage 5.7
> > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1
> > St. Louis, MO.
> >
> > -------Original Message------- 
> >
> > From: Marcus Edell
> > Date: 7/10/2008 10:57:37 AM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: 1963 Fender Tag Engine Code??
> >
> >
> > Was wondering if anyone knows What Engine (Q0) is..? I know Q9 is a Max
> > Wedge..I have a feeling its one of the two 383 options in 1963.Anyone 
> > know?
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Marcus"Hot Rod"Edell-The RevTones www.myspace.com/revtones 
> > www.revtones.net


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