my own jaded twist on this is to expect the woirst and i am right 90 percent o the time. peoples definitions in their ads or on the phone do not match mine. words such as "solid", "original", "numbers matching" , etc. My 58 plymouth savoy shopping experience of two months ago was very disappointing for a "solid" car, but the 2000 dollar 63 dart me and a buddy went to look at last weekend took the cake , as the guy described it up and down as such a great car, solid, and all original, what a joke, the quarters were all rotted out, the carpets were soaked, mold on everything, and it looks like somebody while trying to put AN ENgine into the trunk with a cherry picker broke the chain and dropppped the block right on to the tail panel crushing the trunk sealing surface down about threee inches, a nearly impossible repair. and then the guy has the gumption to insult my intelligence by telling me all it needs is a " new trunk lock". my conclusions in the car sales world: 1)most people are liars and 2) not all mopar people are "good people". neal zimmerman, eugene oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.