OK, thanks all, i printed off your responses and i will have those out in the carport with me as i attempt to figure this one out. what did i buy? I am not sure i should go into that, afetr my 300 dollar wagon luck out, i sensed a lot of resentmentLOL. its a 65 coronet 440 4 door . This new car was kind of a fluke in a lot of ways- i went to look at it this summer as a possible parts car, figuring it was junk, but when i got there i saw it was just unbelievably solid,it has no cowl rot, at all, and the rear window trough is completely solid. I got in the trunk and way up under the dash with a light to determine this. plus the floors are totally solid ( the guy let me peel up the carpets), and as for the quarters. i got way down into the trunk wells and pulled out the seam sealer and they are good. the only real cancer i found is a quarter sized spot up on the drivers fender in the usual spot behind the wheel. this car must have spent most of its life parked in a garage in the winter. so my next thought was this is too solid for a parts car, but it would be a great candidate for the 2 door conversion I have been itching to do ever since wally breer told me about it. and i already have the parts to do it. but the guy wanted too much for it,si stalled. granted it is fairly nice, what u might call a sesoned survivor, all original paint and uphoilstery, but not really what u could call a creampuff either, but for solid bones i dont think u can do better, except for maybe arizona. shes a slant six car with column shift auto and manual stering and brakes, radio delete. the motor runs good and it shifts nice, so shes a driver til i decide what to do with her. does need a brake job. and those brake lights fixed. so when i found all that rot in the wagon i thought about this car ( again) as a parts car for the wagon so i called the guy up and he was much more reasonable 5 months later. plus he said his woman has really been on him to dump it. But I am not gonna part it out for the rusty wagon, its definitely going two door conversion, no question about it, way too solid to go hacking up. neal zimmerman eugene oregon i wont say what i paid, it was hinted that might be in bad taste, and maybe it is, but i will say i paid MUCH less than his original 1400 dollars he wanted . so it looks likke i will be getting that 2 door 65 coronet post i have always wanted after all. neal zimmerman, eugene Oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx bSONJP. Or send an email to: 1962to1965mopars-unsubscribe@