Re: 63 Dart GT Fuel Situation UPDATE: Again 'A Dependable Dodge '

That is very unusual to discover. Too bad you didn’t discover it right away. Besides the goop, there are other traces of foreign matter present.

David C Hurd

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On Jun 3, 2023, at 8:16 AM, 62-65-mail-list-club-Gary-H <62-65-mail-list-club@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am reposting this message for Sherman, as it got misdirected.

Thanks for sending the good news update!

-------Original Message-------

After weeks/ months- of dealing with Fuel delivery to Carter BBS: 1
barrl, 1jet, 1 Accelerator pump, 1 plunger carb

(Rebuilt Jacksonville National Carb 2020);

Repeatedly thought I was 'Clearing sticking float valve' to get to
'Fire Up' ( As shared ladt month).

Put New pickup in tank, added elec pump in parrallelplumbing circuit).
Still No luck keeping it running.

Would get Instant fire, then died-
Finally said to.my 'Popeye Self' - 'Rethink This'.
- - -
Your symptom is more than just fuel delivery, its like a repeatedly
clogging deterioring old Jaguar Paper fuel filter ( but my filter is
new).
- - -
So I decided to open the carb. Carb rebuilt by a reputable Florida
Carb Operation in March 2020.

See pics: In the bottom of fuel bowl I found this thick, deep rubbery
putty like Goop. It is Grey.

Makes no sense but obviously was the problem. It was so thick it was
blocking the main jet pickup.

Maybe plunger had another rubber 'seal' that deteriorated. But 2.5
yrs- Will call National Carb. Very disappointing.

Maybe why Lancer not firing either, so looked inside that carb,
rebuilt same time. What a waste of time HOURS & Hours over the past 2
yrs.

Just Can't Trust anything anymore unless do it oneself.

The Carter BBS s a simple carb; 1brrl, one jet, one accelerator pump.

Spray of starter fluid or pour dribble of gas in carb -Ole 225 Engine
fired instantly.

Good thing I did try go take it to the airport or 16 mi into
Fredericksburg for shopping.

History: Bought- Drove Dart from El Paso to Mid- Atlantic in 2008, &
over the subsequent years to Maryland & Carlilse Pennsylvania; to
Virginia Beach too. Issue only developed after carb rebuild past few
years.

Oh well!
- FOLLOW UP:
Never seen this kind of residue insude a carb in 70 yrs.

In Imperial 413 Carters, Edelbrocks. had Ethanol varnish flakes but
nothing like this.

Anyway, Super cleaned carb, New accelerator pump & gaskets. Mikes
Carburator Kit #K4055.

Put refreshed reassembled Carb on Dart. RTV'd manifold to throttle
body to intake manifold, Safety wired choke rod to choke; safety wired
throttle control arm L to carb throttle plate fitting. Attached gas
line from fuel filter to Needle Valve Inlet pipe. Secured hose Clamp.

Turned on elec pump to fill fuel bowl, prime. Gave accelerator pump
two shots while watching / confirming fuel spray in Venturi.
Turned ignition key.

Instant start and good fast idle running. Fast Idle smoothed out in
less than a minute, choke started opening.

Under hood, activated throttle - Instant acceleration. NO Hesitation.
Turned off. Instant start without elec pump twice.

Took for three 2 Mile runs.

So Dart Lives. Once again 'A/ The Dependable Dodge'.. I expect it to
be.

In retrospect, Had fun learning about the BBS carb. The three I have
are all slightly different productions. Dart, 61Lancer & the parts
carb is a later production. The latter has the retaining cover over
the Accelerator Pump Ball.. others did not. Also, clips on the Rods
are different from the usual Carb Rods 'Bobby Pin typeClips' vs a slip
over & U clamp retaining Gizmo on the Acellerator pump linkage rod at
the Throttle Arm.

The carb on the 65 Dodge a100 Pickup is a Holly 1920. Running great
after replacement of Bakelite Float 2 yrs ago.
These early BBS carbs actually pretty interesting.

Do have a spare intake manifold I've been meaning to 'Modify' to
accept a 2 brrl. Picked up a 2 barrel ten yrs ago at a Mopar Carlilse.

Now will refocus on LED bulbs & electronic upgrades.

Sherman
Columbia MD & Goldvein VA

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