[AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. caac2NQa/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Mp cams arent "Bad" cams. The problem is that they are based on 30 year old designs, that have never changed. Now dont get me wrong, there is a certain good side to "old school" tech. Its just that the MP cams were built for "general" performance use. After all, they came from the car manfacturer, not a cam builder. Meaning they had to fit a wide variety of cars and applications. Look at the MP catalogs themselves, one cam fits many different applications, from bracket racers, to trucks to street rods. I dont think they have added many cams to their catalog as of late. Part of all the cam confusion today, is that many grinders are touting "REAL MOPAR CAMS". ones that utilize the .904 lifer bore. What no one figured it out untill the last few years that mopar can run a faster lift rate cam than a SBC? Come on, you dont really believe that do you? Its all a sales pitch nowadays. Companies like Comp Cams, Lunati, Hughes, Ultradyne, and Racer Brown, are specialists. They dont sell slant 6 Valiants for a living. They are in the business, first off, to make a profit, and to make that profit, they specialize in engines/components. Some all makes, others mopar specific. Call these guys and say you want to buy a cam, and you better have your cars specs on hand, and what you plan to do with it. Cam MP and say you want a cam, and they will essentially say "Which one?" (yes I am being overly simplistic here, you can get cam help from MP but not like you can from a cam grinder, and you will certainly get a cam recommendation from something off the shelf) If you are looking for a good cam for your often driven street engine, then a MP cam isnt a bad choice. I have never had a break in problem with one, and never been unhappy. Then again, I wasnt looking for the most performance I could get. If you want more, you need to look away from MP and look towards companies that specialize in this area. Currently for my engine, I bought an older Erson grind. It was new in the box and cheap to boot. If I break out of the 14's with it, I'd be estatic. When I build the 460 stroker, the cam will be a Racer Brown. Doc. Disclaimer: Some of the things I do would cause a person to get hurt, expelled, arrested, possibly deported. To put it another way, dont try this at home. [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. caac48Qf/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. http:///u/?.