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When you use the OD guts in either the aluminum case or iron case, there 
is load applies to the cluster(countershaft)when the trans is in OD 
(3rd). While the std non-OD transmissions do not operate in this manner, 
they run the trans in direct drive, meaning the countershaft is alond 
for the ride. Thats one of the reasons that Chrysler when with the 308 
bearing, as the roller bearings between the shafts do more work, 
(remember engine RPM in and a higher rpm out) Its critical to keep the 
bearings and roler surfaces in good shape( ie during a rebuild ). This 
cant be stated more if you are NOT using the 308 bearing as its larger 
for a reason. the smaller bearing may not be able to take the loads 
applied to it when its in 3rd (od).

Aside from that, I am not sure that the OD internals will fit the non0od 
case due to the bearing sizes. (should, but I have never done it.)

Doc.
65 wrote:
> 
> Brian...The OD's are 3+1 for a total of 4 gears. An OD trans has one of 
> the
> shift levers on the outside flipped over to get the OD ratio. What 
> happens
> is: when you think you're shifting into 3rd,you are actually shifting 
> into
> 4th(1:1 ratio) and when you think you're shifting into 4th ,you are 
> actually
> in the 3rd shift position . They change the 3rd gear to .76 : 1,I think.
> 
> Darwin/Victoria BC/Canada
> '65 Cdn Valiant Custom 100 'vert
> Slant 6/4-speed
> 
> M.O.P.A.R. =  My Old Plymouth Ain't Runnin'.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "BRIAN RICHEL" <BCAJM5@xxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 2:43 PM
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> 
>  I just bouht a 4spd. it has a alum case with a cast iron tale. can you 
>  guys
> tell me what year they started with the alum case. I cant imagine 
> putting a
> lot of horse in front of it. also the bearing retainer is 5.125, which I
> believe means it is an overdrive(not sure though). I have another 4spd 
> all
> cast iron that im going to build it is from 71. will all the overdrive 
> guts
> fit in a 71 cast? and were the overdrives 4+1 gears or 3+1 gears? was 
> the
> overdrive considered a 5th gear? is there somewhere I can get info about 
> a
> 4spd and all the interchangable parts?                               
> p.s.
> have to brag...   bought the overdrive 4spd ,2 hurst shifters and a
> bellhousing for 50.00 (I couldn't believe it).
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