RE: Headers vs. manifolds

[Earl Helm <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Jeff,

Yes, but when you say Wedge, then I assume that your talking about
Max Wedge type of heads. Max Wedge heads have raised ports that
are 5/8" higher than stock 413-440 heads. If wedge in your world means
413 or 440, then your right on.

Earl

The 426 is actually a bored 413 and will have 413 heads with some port 
work, so I assume most headers will fit. Thanks for the info on 
manifolds, Oh-be-wan!
Jeff
Earl Helm wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Ok, that changes things. I would not mess with trying to square your 
> headers away. I would just put stock manifolds on and enjoy the car 
> while your building your new motor.
> 
> One word of caution with the Wedge thing. When your dealing with 
> raised ports, depending on your block, you can run into some serious 
> header issues in B bodies. If you run Wedge, or raised port heads on a

> 400 block, then stock 440 height headers will work, but if you run 
> Wedge heads on a 440 block, then your going to get into all kinds of 
> clearance issues. Not many headers made for this application that work

> well. Make sure you do your home work on the combo you decide on. Then

> double check it.
> 
> Earl
> 
> 
> Engine is totally stock except for cam and headers with over 100k on 
> it,
> 
> heads were redone stock. Carb is original 4bbl. I don't mind spending
> the money on good gaskets, but only if they will fix the leak. Another

> issue is this only a temporary engine, as I plan on building a more 
> serious 426w I already have and installing TTI headers with THAT
motor, 
> so I don't want to put a lot of money into the 413. Can you mill the 
> flange at home Earl? Thanks.
> Jeff
> Earl Helm wrote:
> > 
> > Jeff,
> > 
> > It depends on your carb. If your running an older Afb or Holly, then
> > the headers will be very effective. They will be a good increase
over 
> > stock manifolds anyway.
> > 
> > One reason headers are so effective with these engines is that the
> > carbs naturally tend to be on the rich side because they are not the

> > worlds best technology. So the headers help scavenge quite well and 
> > improve performance in the older engines much more that the new
ones.
> > 
> > A couple of suggestions. Take your old headers off and either mill 
> > the
> 
> > flange or straighten it. It is not as hard as you think. I would 
> > also
> > suggest investing 30 bucks in Copper gaskets for the headers. They 
> > will last a lifetime, and not leak.
> > 
> > Earl
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'd like some opinions on headers vs manifolds on a mild 413 in a 64

> > Polara. I have an old set of headers that I can't get to stop 
> > leaking
> at
> > 
> > the head. It's probably a bent center flange, but I've had 4 
> > different sets of gaskets in it, both header and stock steel 
> > gaskets. What I'd like to know is how much performance difference 
> > there is between the two. Right now I have a used 413 4bbl, 509 cam,

> > headers/Flowmasters
> with
> > 
> > an H pipe. I'm considering going back to the stock manifolds from 
> > the 413, which is out of a 65 Imperial. What do you guys think? Jeff
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Jeff Adams
> 64 Polara
> 
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Jeff Adams
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