RE: Headers vs. manifolds

[Earl Helm <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Jeff,

Ok, that changes things. I would not mess with trying to square your
headers away. I would just put stock manifolds on and enjoy the car
while your building your new motor.

One word of caution with the Wedge thing. When your dealing with
raised ports, depending on your block, you can run into some serious
header issues in B bodies. If you run Wedge, or raised port heads on
a 400 block, then stock 440 height headers will work, but if you run
Wedge heads on a 440 block, then your going to get into all kinds
of clearance issues. Not many headers made for this application that
work well. Make sure you do your home work on the combo you decide
on. Then double check it.

Earl


Engine is totally stock except for cam and headers with over 100k on it,

heads were redone stock. Carb is original 4bbl. I don't mind spending 
the money on good gaskets, but only if they will fix the leak. Another 
issue is this only a temporary engine, as I plan on building a more 
serious 426w I already have and installing TTI headers with THAT motor, 
so I don't want to put a lot of money into the 413. Can you mill the 
flange at home Earl? Thanks.
Jeff
Earl Helm wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> It depends on your carb. If your running an older Afb or Holly, then 
> the headers will be very effective. They will be a good increase over 
> stock manifolds anyway.
> 
> One reason headers are so effective with these engines is that the 
> carbs naturally tend to be on the rich side because they are not the 
> worlds best technology. So the headers help scavenge quite well and 
> improve performance in the older engines much more that the new ones.
> 
> A couple of suggestions. Take your old headers off and either mill the

> flange or straighten it. It is not as hard as you think. I would also 
> suggest investing 30 bucks in Copper gaskets for the headers. They 
> will last a lifetime, and not leak.
> 
> Earl
> 
> 
> 
> I'd like some opinions on headers vs manifolds on a mild 413 in a 64
> Polara. I have an old set of headers that I can't get to stop leaking
at
> 
> the head. It's probably a bent center flange, but I've had 4 different
> sets of gaskets in it, both header and stock steel gaskets. What I'd 
> like to know is how much performance difference there is between the 
> two. Right now I have a used 413 4bbl, 509 cam, headers/Flowmasters
with
> 
> an H pipe. I'm considering going back to the stock manifolds from the
> 413, which is out of a 65 Imperial. What do you guys think? Jeff
> 
> 



Jeff Adams
64 Polara

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