ok thanks for explanations, i changed a head gasket and put it back together and it looked like a stinkin pressure cooker. guess i'll order some more rings. sure did want to fix this car up some but i cant seem to put a motor together to make it run. on the bright side i let my brother in law use my newyorker to pull his dead ford home and it pretty much finished its transmission. i put a cooler back on it and put two new fluid and filter changes on it to see if i can stretch it out some more. put type f in it just to amuse myself. i'll have another tranny to play with shortly. am past enthused and thru burnout and have become a plodding old mule figuratively speaking in my devotion to these old mopars, every day i walk past the 68 bird i wanted all my life that i havent done anything with and its 3 gs worth of plant stand wrapped neatly in front of it because as my wife says im too stupid to give up on the notion im competent with this stuff. have a nice day. i'm going to. (sometimes you gotta be pretty stubborn to have a nice day). could be worse [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. b7yoMz.