RE: 413

[Earl Helm <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The biggest mistake people make when building Mopars
is assuming that the pin height is the same. Mopar made
so many pistons for each motor through out the years,
and all the after stock type market pistons are different
that you better measure and check before you buy and
install pistons expecting a given compression ratio.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Casey [mailto:dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:59 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 413


Stock bores are:

413 - 4.19"
426 - 4.25"
440 - 4.31"

All three motors share the same stroke and therefore the same rods an
pin
height. A 0.060" oversize piston takes you to the next displacement's
standard bore. So unless your 413 block can take a 0.120" overbore, you
can't use 440 pistons. At best you can use stock 426 pistons.

Dave Casey
----- Original Message -----
From: GARY WILSON <MOPAR413@xxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: 413


>
> The understanding is the pistons are the same for the 426 as for the
440.
I was told I could take the 413 bore it 60 over and install the stock
bore
440 pistons.  I am going to double check that.  I finally understand
what
you are getting at.  Will let you know when I comeback from the machist.
> MOPAR413 (Gary) 64 Polora 500
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: george smith<mailto:BT6T4@xxxxxxxxx>
>   To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
>   Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:53 PM
>   Subject: Re: 413
>
>
>   My thoughts exactly. My 413 is bored .060 over for 426 cubes. It
seems
to me since the 440 is a larger bore,would a 413 block be able to go
that
far without compromising the cylinder walls?
>
>   George
>
>   Jeff Adams <ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
>
>   I thought a 413 .060 over was 426 cubes, and a 426 .060 over was 440
cubes.
>   How can you use 440 pistons in a .060 over 413?
>   Jeff
>
>   >From: GARY WILSON
>   >Reply-To:
1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
>   >To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
>   >Subject: Re: 413
>   >Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:13:54 -0800
>   >
>   >
>   >440 pistons stock will bring the 413 to 426. I have a 413 also and
am
>   >planning on borning it 60 over so I can use the 440 pistons.
>   >MOPAR413 (Gary) 64 Polora 500
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Gary Futrell
>   > To:
1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
>   > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:56 PM
>   > Subject: 413
>   >
>   >
>   > I've got a rebuilt 1964 413 shortblock to install in my 64 Fury
this
>   >summer. I wanted to put 452 heads on it, but after checking the
piston
>   >height, I'm sure about it. I used a straight edge and feeler gage ,
the
>   >piston was about .085 down in the hole. Are these possible truck
pistons?
>   >The 413 is bored out .030. Aren't the 413 pistons hard to find?
>   > Any recommendations on pistons? Would 426 pistons be easier to
find?

>   >block bored out .060)
>   >
>   >
>   > Gary
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