Yes, the IBM card as both the VIN and the SON. But the data tag has only the SON prior to 1969. You cannot determine the vehicle's VIN from the information on the car's data tag if it was built before 1969. Bill Vancouve, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: <lxpg1@xxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 4:39 AM Subject: Re: hidden vin numbers > > In a message dated 3/14/2004 6:39:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, > wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > > To get the build record (IBM card) from Chrysler you need the VIN. > > > > The VIN did not apppear on the body tag until 1969. > > > > The VIN did not appear on the engine or transmission until 1968. > > > > The VIN was not stamped on the car body until 1968. > > > > The SON (4 digits) is NOT the same number as the VIN sequence number (6 > > digits). They are rarely even close. I own a 1962 Dodge Lancer GT - the > > SON is 3074 while the last six digits of the VIN are 106831. If you were > > able to reconstruct your 1963 Dodge 880 VIN from the data tag, it was a > > fuke. > > > > Bill > > > > > Bill it was not a fluke at all. I had the SO number from my fender tag > and it was on the IBM punch card. No fluke. > > -- > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ---- > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. > > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. b7yoMz.