Re: {Chrysler 300} Dodge truck? big heads up for you

At the risk of violating server rules and offending brand loyalty I will disclose that my 2017 Toyota Tundra with 140,000 miles has so far required 1 set of brakes, 3 sets of tires, and one passenger side front turn indicator bulb. I would never consider a domestic pickup regardless of how gaping a maw they stick on.

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From: "'Randal Edison' via Chrysler 300 Club International" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 3:37pm
To: jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "chrysler 300 club" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Jim Marino" <jpm0855@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Dodge truck? big heads up for you

Thank you for sharing, John, that is very good to know...so frustrating and dangerous for owners!

I was eyeballing a nice, used 2014 Ram to replace my gas-hog 2005 GMC with the 8.1L gas engine, but after reading some reviews, I saw the Ram had quite a bit lower customer ratings than my GMC (and Ford), and now after your email, I'll definitely cross it off the list!

Shame that Big Industry can't understand that more technology doesn't replace the need for quality, reliability, and safety!

Hope everyone has fun in Kokomo! Sorry that mom and I had to cancel our attendance. Hopefully we'll be at Omaha in the fall👍

Randy

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:19 PM, John Grady

<jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I had a lot of trouble with my 2012 Dodge truck , 4 wd Hemi shortbed brakes a few years back ,one front disc started dragging smoke and all the “on the main highway hassle “

on the way to pick up 300 windshield 300 miles away , so counts as 300 related ( right?) . As in really bad . So found good Mopar guy in brake shop in Harrisburg Pa , I saw a ~ 2005 c300 customized outside , just closing 6 pm saturday night . I was in panic — cant drive the truck

Great Mopar guy helped me , new calipers and pads . He stayed after closing .

Continued , 75 miles more next day after unplanned overnight , same thing same side . Sprayed with water at firehouse started using E brake on highway . All the way back to Boston — not fun . Made it without touching brake pedal .

Changed it again , at home , another new high end caliper , was seemingly ok . Very bothered by what is going on , ( will it happen again?)

never really found out anything satisfying about the why . Still like that . …..

Lest you think easy —- remember ABS controls each one , gets into unbelievable (needless to me ) complexity about what ABS or master / booster might be or might not be doing . . End of day , = thoroughly screwed up unreliable brakes — no matter the nice fairy story about advancements .

So another Dodge truck I have 2013 250 did same thing a few months back , both sides … bought all new stuff , just put all on , ( everything on a mopar rusts solid these days , including all brake and front end bolts — chinese rustproofing of cheap fasteners ) . They Save 2$ . At least .

Having had this dance card before , went on line . Happening to all of them. Huge hassles new brakes just burn up .

Lots of wrong info / opinions from guys who never touched a brake pad .

But finally one smart guy posted a thing I did not believe at first but also the diagnostic thing he used worked.

He said sub intelligent design on a beefy clamp holding frame end of hose rusts INSIDE the clamp squeezing the hose OD restricting flow ( hard to believe right ?) . So he said when wheel is dragging ( it does so even parked/ stopped) crack the bleeder , if it releases hose may be clogged ( it released , so , yes, caliper is fine (!!) all of them were fine (!!) . Then crack the connection to hard line after closing bleeder , step on brake — if it stays locked after, it is hose for sure . How he found , in his opinion, the clamp did it . clamp or not, it IS the hose

Just try and crack that fitting …or remove that clamp — just try . Mopar coated brake lines with plastic of some kind ( after the dakota dissolving brake lines fiasco) but still junk steel line is bare under the nut , — as the coating ends just before flare nut ; said nut has no coating either — rusts into a solid rust ball with line . HEY mopar— you have a totally STUPID design . If you somehow grab what is left of nut ( nicely pocketed) you twist off the end of the line . A new party starts .

It gets better .

That nut is some screwball metric thread different than the rest of world metric brake nut . NAPA = big zero . Metric that they have for you is a different thread pitch . Same diameter .So you strip hose end … maybe .

Now two days into this , plus 1000 $ +

and the two days blown last time comes into mind . Topping 2500 in time and money now even doing it all yourself .

So we had to get new lines replace them due to them saving .04 on flare nut and clamp rust proofing — had to hand make the lines ( of the new good copper alloy stuff) and — finally ended up having to DRILL out the remains of tube to use mangled old nut on our new flare .

Compare all this sad story to our letter cars ,— the little 90 degree flag holding hose hard line connection to frame —with clip ; the way this was done with zero problems ever — for 80 years. 37 Packard same way

And one even can imagine brass or SS nuts , but they must cost ..04 more . = Screw the customer with junk nut in a critical place …

Irritating beyond belief . all this cost me thousdadds of dollars in motel , brake parts days of aggravation and hassle . And 3-4 days of my life fighting the design of an utter moron that is on every dodge truck . So if your brakes drag , now you know why .

One guy on line had this happen and it burned his truck to the ground

Tempted to buy a Ford next time .

John

ps, 40 years ago I got into a crash when

brake line burst on a 62 dodge , my driver , panic stop .

I wrote Feds about people with less income are victimized by this , older used cars do it, and dual masters are not the answer , stainless lines are . I have had a line burst on dual

master , almost no braking left pedal goes to within 1/2” of floor . Yet that , they mandated .

A woman engineer at NHTSA or whatever it is writes back to me “ they cost too much to

mandate “

next day i had our purchasing dept price 20 feet of steel line and 20 feet of SS , 8$ different .

I sent it to her . Nothing happened .

i bet could have saved 1000’s of lives , maybe 10000.

I am hoping a recall of all dodge trucks . they deserve it

Sent from my iPhone

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