Henry-
There was no clear coat until about 1977 when Ford used it on the Lincoln Versailles. Previous to that metallic paint had metal particles small enough to be used and buffed without a clearcoat. Today’s metallic particles are too big and clear over it is just about mandatory. I worked with a close friend and a restoration shop on a 58 Fleetwood in which the owner wanted to avoid the color changes that occur in bright sun on some metallic. Regardless, today clear is used over metallic otherwise it can’t be properly cut and buffed.
Danny Plotkin
From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Schleimer
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To: 'Noel Hastalis' <cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Tom Wilburn' <tomwilburn1@xxxxxxxxx>; highoctane300h@xxxxxxx
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Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} 300 F on eBay
Pardon my ignorance on painting, but back in 1960 when Chrysler were spraying metallic colors, did they put a coat of clear over the base or was it color and gloss in one coat?
Although this car is stunning it looks to me to have too deep a clear and out of character for 1960. I may be wrong but it is what I would expect to see on a modern car. I recall when I had my 300C painted, my painter tried to convince me how much better it would look with clear over plain old Cloud White for crying out loud. I continued to tell him no until he gave up.... Otherwise I think it would have looked like a modern car and that is not the point unless it is a retro-mod.
Just my opinion at least for non-metallc colors. But I would like to know generally how older metallics were done in the day and whether they had such a deep gloss.
Henry
From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Hastalis
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2024 1:48 PM
To: Tom Wilburn; highoctane300h@xxxxxxx
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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} 300 F on eBay
Tom and Group,
This F coupe is a known car, included in our 2023 News-Flite #175 listing our Club's known Fs by serial number, with factory paint code. This F is listed as PP1, Toreador Red (metallic), which indeed was one of the four standard offered 300-F exterior paint numbers. Its owner is listed as Jerry Kopecky, who's a restorer based in Iola, WI - see more info in this link -
Some of our Wisconsin and Minnesota are familiar with Kopecky. Clearly, he's no longer the owner of this red F.
Looking at the 40 or so photos of this F, its exterior does indeed look gleamingly beautiful with an almost candy apple gloss. But looking at the interior and engine shots, we also see these appear somewhat more vivid than natural, so I suspect the photos were subjected to some enhancement before posting online - kind of a teaser to our eyes. That's not to say this car isn't really beautiful, because it does look great.
Noel
On 05/05/2024 9:06 PM CDT Tom Wilburn <tomwilburn1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It’s a beautiful car. Is the shade of red correct?
Tom
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On May 5, 2024, at 8:49 PM, highoctane300h via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Beautiful car needs to come back to he USA.--
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