AFBs first appeared in the 1958 model year. The 383 first appeared in 1959. Ron -----Original Message----- From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of John Grady Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 3:50 PM To: chrysler 300 club <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: {Chrysler 300} AFB carbs / Edelbrock Hi Quick question I ought to know myself but suddenly not sure . So 58 dodge 361 or 383 58 (?)—- I think it was first use of afb vs wcfb on mopar ? 300 E had 2 afb too So rebuilt it twice — once outside , once myself could find nothing really “ wrong” , terrible , repeatable bog when secondary opened . Cannot be fuel flow as no problem to 90 mph and we know bowls are full when sec first opens . Replaced pump anyway . Gave up and changed to 650 edelbrock , ran perfect out of box , although yet to have high speed bog test , but seems fine . ( Larger diameter neck , FYI and a lower carb body — I found 1” neck extension and opened air cleaner bottom) Without 1” it hits choke linkages . So in doing this , afterwards I noticed the secondary air valve in the Edelbrock. ( described for the AFB in carter book too ) , but the carb I took off had no air valve at all , at first i thought missing (?) — aha- no wonder a bog — but close inspection reveals no place to even mount it , no shaft holes etc . Carb i took off had the normal progressive linkage to secondary too. So ? were early afb made without air valves ? . = gonna bog? Are all afb narrow neck ? or were some larger neck a little later ? I thought afb and Edelbrock the same thing , but obviously not , or there was a change in AFB design ~ 1962 , later ?? Or I am just lucky and some kind of marine carb landed on my 383? comments welcome … john G Sent from my iPhone -- For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Chrysler 300 Club International" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to chrysler-300-club-international+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chrysler-300-club-international/673891EE-9F0B-4020-8185-CC5504927CCE%40gradyresearch.com. -- For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Chrysler 300 Club International" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to chrysler-300-club-international+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chrysler-300-club-international/001801d9c34f%24fd317590%24f79460b0%24%40comcast.net.