Re: {Chrysler 300} 64 starting problem and work around- wire damage

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:18 PM dplotkin <dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cats need shelter regardless of whether they are feral or otherwise. Let the cats live where the cars are. Don't leave food and bedding outside. That won't feed anything but the wildlife.

Many shelters have feral cats for adoption that won't live with you in your house but will be relatively happy to live in your barn where you keep your cars and keep the rodents at Bay. I have many friends with barns that do this.

Cats are very much like people, if they don't like where they live and they don't like who they're living with they will move.

Danny Plotkin

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From: Ray Jones <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 7/18/23 2:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: dplotkin <dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "D.C. Mason" <petergriffinforpresident@xxxxxxxxx>, Anthony Cutrone <acgoldcoast@xxxxxxxxx>, Cox <scooter465@xxxxxxx>, Chrysler list server <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ray Jones <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} 64 starting problem and work around- wire damage

They are all Rodents, and as such, they must chew on non-edibles to wear their front teeth down.
The teeth never stop growing and if not worn down, will grow into fangs and prevent them from eating at all.
What worked for us was 2 outside cats, who lived around our shop. We had a garden shed addition where their food and beds were.
Our cats died with-in a month or two of each other (14 & 17 Mo. old) We lived in the woods, so lots of critters.
Once the cats were no longer on the job, critters moved in.
Rider Mowers had wiring chewed up. My Dakota damaged. My Ram damaged.
The Hurst ended up with a bushel of acorns all through it, Trunk, Glove box, under seats, plus under hood wiring chewed up.

The replacement kitty, was an inside girl, she stayed around the cabin and only went to the barn if we did.
So, have 2 outside cats, so they have company, and have their beds and food outside so they are on the job 24/7.
Good Luck, Ray

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 11:10 AM dplotkin <dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am reasonably certain that what we call a groundhog or a marmot is really just a big fat squirrel that doesn't climb trees but has the same teeth and the same propensity to chew things that are not digestible.

Danny Plotkin

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From: "D.C. Mason" <petergriffinforpresident@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 7/18/23 11:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Anthony Cutrone <acgoldcoast@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Cox <scooter465@xxxxxxx>, Chrysler list server <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} 64 starting problem and work around- wire damage

Thanks all!

I had forgotten there was a neutral safety switch in the circuit; that put an idea in my head.

A minute of background-
We have a small garage with a lawn mower Bay Area attached to one end, an open carport on the other end, and an open carport along the front that Kya and I built. All of the attached areas have a gravel floor. Recently we had to kick out a groundhog that had made a burrow in the lawn mower bay. We have seen the groundhog hanging around the carport area (not far from Kya’s garden).

The evidence points to the groundhog. I found some chewed wires and a bent transmission dipstick. In fact on one car it also chewed some spark plug wires.

These wires were not like this when I was originally troubleshooting, so this is an ongoing active crime scene.

I know it sounds crazy but apparently groundhogs do this sometimes. We haven’t had an issue with any other critters doing this before now. We have some wires to replace… and a groundhog to get rid of... 😵‍💫

D&K

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On Jul 18, 2023, at 5:57 AM, Anthony Cutrone <acgoldcoast@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,
I recently had the same problem with my "F" and it was the neutral safety connection on the transmission.
Tony Cutrone

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:57 AM Cox <scooter465@xxxxxxx> wrote:
As to why this happened to
All 3 not a clue.
I would suspect the neutral safety switch or circuit.
It provides a ground for starter when car is in
Park or neutral.

Bob Haag

> On Jul 18, 2023, at 12:34 AM, D.C. Mason <petergriffinforpresident@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hello Club,
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> Not sure if anyone out there has had this happen but this is a first, and an odd one.
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> We have three 64s- a K, a sport, and a “Newport 300”. We had the K out on the Blue Ridge Parkway last month and have recently driven the other two locally. No problems.
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> Then the other day I went to start one- nothing. Meaning no sound, no click of the relay or solenoid, just nothing. The next car- same thing. And you betcha, the same thing on the next one. All three cars would not turn over, not even a click, as if the battery was dead but they were all charged.
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> In this case there is a temporary work-around:
> On the starter relay, there is a brown wire that I think is a ground or momentary ground when required. As I was troubleshooting I found that if I ran a jumper wire (shown here in white) from the brown wire on the relay, to a decent ground, that restored normal starting.
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> I don’t know the cause of this but at least this work around will overcome the issue in the case of these three cars. It’s anyone’s guess as to why they would all three have the issue at the same time. I have been driving 63/64s for 20 years and never seen this. I did replace one of the relays (just for schnitts and schnizzles), and it didn’t change anything.
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> Will report back if a cause is discovered. In the meantime has anyone else had this happen with a 63/4? Depending on the problem it may rear its head on other years too. I have started carrying a jumper wire in the cars.
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