Re: {Chrysler 300} In Need of a Double Pulley with Fan for 1960 Chrysler

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From: "John Grady"
To: "Keith Langendorfer"
Cc: "dplotkin", "Steve", "Chrysler list server"
Sent: Sunday December 18 2022 7:20:46AM
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} In Need of a Double Pulley with Fan for 1960 Chrysler or Imperial Generator or Whole Generator

Following just information :

I had an inverse problem where I put a mopar alternator from mid sixties onto a 37 Packard.

It was a dual pulley as bought , but Packards use B section belts , much wider than A section on our cars . I ended up making a pulley single groove but wide , after trying to remachine the original wider . Not enough raw metal width. All belts had a similar angle about 37 degrees .

Bent pulleys can be fixed for sure.

This brought up in my mind after reading the posts using a dual groove alternator pulley on these generators , but it is possibly too small in diameter , ? would spin generator a bit faster . Check diameter , need not be exact . That might be ok , effect would be to improve charge but wear out brushes sooner . But still probably 40 -50 k miles .

But aftermarket race pulley suppliers make oversize generally aluminum pulleys to slow down the mopar alternator on a race car to save hp and to add reliability . Someone like March, summit or Jegs, 440 source ot Mancini may have this , however fan details for cooling ought to be considered . It needs a fan

This also brings up converting to a 60 A 2 post field alternator , which is very easy , with 70’s era electronic VR ( see 78 dodge truck for both) . Alternator on Rock auto was only 30$ . Reliable as can be . Parts everywhere .

AC cars had 40 A generator not 35 —-and 40 -And its regulator —is rare . Alternator ends that 35 A problem . Can also use earlier 1 wire 35-40 alternator like in a G or H . Have to fab a bracket on 60 or use G style ex manifold . ( also rare ) Use F generator mount as it sits , as a start , add a tab to it and spacers .

One last observation , I assume we know the fire wall on an ac car in 60 is totally different from the day it was built. Unless someone very skilled and meticulous cut it all up and put in pieces from an ac car and holes for ac unit , I don’t see how it can be “ converted “.

I know this because a California F I bought stripped and in prime in a 1000 piece basket ( 40 boxes) had firewall all chopped up by attempting this - Why it was a basket case . The integral part of the fire wall involving the air inlet metal and door is completely different . After a lot of trying to figure out what was involved to finish , I ended up reversing what this guy had done . He had left out in planning his modification a sort of rain deflector / drain trough setup on top of inlet such that water would have run in.
I had both an ac car and non ac nearby to compare and to guide all this .

One might consider add on , I found a 60 mopar Air Temp add on evaporator in the middle of this problem it is kinda cool looking ( hah) , mounts under glove box could use with vintage air or V2 setup under hood etc . Leaves stock heater .

I also had another F with an AC under package shelf add on . Could do that with one of the Hurricane boxes from one of the aftermarket AC guys in Texas

I don’t know your situation etc maybe you are good . Poking around into air intake under grill behind hood should tell the tale if modified .

Or maybe stock ac box is on car now? All this is done? Check options data as built ?

I realize way beyond that now , but just buying an AC F is way ahead of starting from scratch a conversion . Maybe Noel needs two F ! ( join that club!)

Related info , manual brake cars also have specific firewalls as MC is mounted at a different height , as pedal ratio to MC piston rod changes This one however can be changed by some drilling , reshaping etc and using dodge or plymouth parts including firewall MC plate , pedal , and pedal box. I assume stick car / clutch is the same deal , but have not done that. Thought about it ,for 833 4 speed F tribute car .

Maybe keep it simple make pulley , but fan comes up . If no fan integral with pulley, 500 seems high

35 A gen May be fine too . On a rainy night , no extended ac use maybe in city traffic .

Personally ,I’d go 70’s 60 A alternator .

Hope this helps ..

john g

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On Dec 17, 2022, at 8:19 PM, 'Keith Langendorfer' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My neighbor when I lived in West Newbury, Massachusetts , Gary Roberts, may be worth contacting (Robert’s Motor Parts - he always has an ad in Hemmings.)

Gary has always focused on 40’s and 50’s Mopars (especially trucks) but he bought up a lot of old dealership stuff in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s and can surprise you as he’s off the radar as far as Mopar performance cars.

Worth a try…

Keith

On Dec 17, 2022, at 5:48 PM, dplotkin <dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Try looking for both items separately. Look for a Autolite 35 amp generator that fits a Chrysler product and find the double pulley. I don't know why that generator should be so hard to find it was used on all kinds of cars and trucks and tractors and so forth. Have you tried Murray Park?

Danny Plotkin

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From: Steve <saforwardlook@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: 12/17/22 3:15 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: Chrysler list server <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} In Need of a Double Pulley with Fan for 1960 Chrysler or Imperial Generator or Whole Generator

Here is a photo of the generator he needs at lower left in photo:

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On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:13 PM Steve <saforwardlook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A friend of mine has a 1960 Chrysler 300 and is in need of the above for his car. So far he has not had success in finding one.

I have checked the usual sources such as Jeff Carter, Big M Auto Wrecking, Andy Bernbaum, and numerous members with whom I am familiar with in the club and nothing so far.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Steve Albu

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