Re: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

[John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

that is a good solution , but had hoped they were a lot brighter . Changing to LED if not brighter sort of your call . The 50 cp halogen must be very bright . I think the stock bulbs are 30 or 35 brake filament not sure.. 

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On 25 Aug 2021, at 12:17 pm, Scott Tozzi <toz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I put Phillips red LED tail light bulbs, and yellow front indicator lights, then changed the flasher to an electronic one. The lights are bright, probably brighter than the standard bulb. The flasher has a louder click and is consistant even at idle.

Scott Tozzi 

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From: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 8/25/21 9:07 AM (GMT-08:00)

To: dan300f <dan300f@xxxxxxx>

Cc: Nick Taylor <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>, Robert Kelley <rbtkelley@xxxxxxxxx>, c300@xxxxxxx, Dave Schwandt <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Steve <sbeard2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

and that keeps flasher working —I like it 
On 25 Aug 2021, at 11:46 am, dan300f <dan300f@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi John and all.

My mistake.  My bulb is a halogen and not an LED.  The description is as follows:

Candlepower

12V50/15w

Halogen bulb

#H1157

Made in Korea and not China

LED bulbs are much brighter and efficient but heavier on the wallet.  I don't recall what I paid for the Halogen but a lot less than what LED's are going for now.

Dan Reitz

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From: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 8/25/21 8:05 AM (GMT-08:00)

To: dan300f <dan300f@xxxxxxx>

Cc: Nick Taylor <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>, Robert Kelley <rbtkelley@xxxxxxxxx>, c300@xxxxxxx, Dave Schwandt <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Steve <sbeard2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

hi do you know the brand or any details of getting the led bulb that worked ? 100’s out there many are chinese junk .  most I tried were marginal —-but time has passed . 

FYI i experimented with Philips 8 watt MR-16 type show window type reflector led , really bright , white . 

although made for 12 ac , they work fine on DC . I learned about them from 12 v dc solar house setup. Only one filament but could ? add another bulb in the F space in tailight back plate .

I did this on backup lights , and on 57 dodge taillight for stop . Have to improvise . 

john 

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On 24 Aug 2021, at 10:40 pm, dan300f <dan300f@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Compliments to John Lazenby, I converted to led's on my F several years ago.  Work like a champ.  Use my closed garage door to test before I drive the F

Obtained an under the dash brake light switch from an H and have no problems with hydraulic fluid deterioration.

Also, I use yellow filament bulbs in the front turning signals.

Dan Reitz

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From: Nick Taylor <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: 8/24/21 4:33 PM (GMT-08:00)

To: Robert Kelley <rbtkelley@xxxxxxxxx>

Cc: c300@xxxxxxx, John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave Schwandt <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Steve <sbeard2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

LED replacements have gotten better over the years but the LEDs need to be located in the same general area as the filaments in the old bulbs in order for the relectors to work properly.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021, 3:19 PM Robert Kelley <rbtkelley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All;

I second the fact that if using silicone the mechanical stop light switch will fail after a few years use, always carried a spare. I valued long term brake storage benefits of silicone over a $10.00 replacement switch on a GM vehicle.

I am not an EE, yet converted our 300F to LED tail lights this year. When installing in taillight buy the red bulb, and directional will only work with a LED flasher which has a separate ground wire. My flasher had a different pin arrangement so I ran a set of wires up under the dash. Been working fine after 1500 miles this summer.

A good source for quality bulbs and flashers are vendors servicing the street rod guys. A vendor I have used is Watson's Street Works. I have seen bulbs and flashers which should work at NAPA. Suggest DOT rated as many brands are not. 

https://watsons-streetworks.com/product-category/lighting/

Bob

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From: "Rich Barber"
To: "John Grady"
Cc: "Nick Taylor", "Steve", "Chrysler 300 Club International"
Sent: Tuesday August 24 2021 4:29:10PM
Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

Yes, flashers work based on known external resistance/load of the bulbs.  That’s why flashers either stop or go crazy if one bulb is out.  I believe LED’s have much lower resistance and will appear to the flasher as being “out”.  I would think recalibrated flashers would be available for these conversions.  Perhaps there is a sharp EE, thoughtful and a great communicator out there that can sort out a total conversion and publish the results.

 

I did place aluminum foil in my C300 tails and that helped—sort of like trimming the wick or turning up the acetylene.  Low tech.

 

Rich B.

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of John Grady
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 2:18 PM
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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

 

you might paint the inside white , it helps  I did that on backup lights — really better.

many cars had that from factory ... 
Jury out on led in my experience — but many are sold , brilliant red as replacement for bulb number in tail light . Some claim much higher brightness  Can cause flasher issues ...  

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On 24 Aug 2021, at 4:52 pm, <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Steve, maybe you DON”T have brake lights??

What kind of setup do you have for brake light switch??

Still have the hydraulic one on the master cylinder?

If so, make sure it is working when the brakes are applied, use a test lamp.

If you are/have been using silicone fluid, that switch will likely fail if it hasn’t already.

Best to convert to mechanical switch under the dash like 61’s and up used.

 

Good luck in your diagnosis.

 

Dave Schwandt

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Nick Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 3:15 PM
To: Steve <sbeard2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Break lights not bright enough?

 

Are you sure they're coming on? Easy way to check brightness by yourself is to use the turn signals. These aren't the brightest lights in full sun because of the way they're mounted on the car. Another problem with them is that there is a reflector on the inside around the bulb that can fall off. If it fell of and someone just left it out, the light won't be concentrated in the middle of the lens enough.

 

Once I actually got my brake lights working on my F (loose connection at the switch), they're actually pretty good with standard bulbs. 

 

Nick

 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:53 AM Steve <sbeard2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi 300 ites,

Hot enough for you,

96 in Delaware,  Oh----io

Question,

Just got back from a short drive with my lovely wife following in her car to check break and turn signals. Tough to do this by one's self. Getting ready to drive up to that state up north for the fall 300 meet and she commented that break lights are not, bright. Like I don,t have break lights. Sunday, while pulling in my drive,guy behind came flying up and yelled something but radio was to loud.

Any way to brighten the taillights. I am going to buy new bulbs and replace the ones that are in there now.

Thanks in advance,and hope to see everyone in a few weeks.

Steve Beard

300F

Delaware, Oh---io

 

 

 

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