Re: {Chrysler 300} RE: [Chrysler300] door adjustments

[RICHARD HUSS <rhuss214192@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Just worked it out. So for future knowledge I shimmed the outer end of the bottom hinge and it brought in the bottom of the door. Thanks for all the help. 


Richard



> On Dec 11, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Richard <rhuss214192@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Just sent pictures of the door. The top lines up. I will see what moving the top out will do. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:54 AM, Ryan Hill <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been impressed with product from Steele Rubber Products on a few projects but can’t speak to availability or fitment on your specific car. They were my preference on my ‘65 300 after actually ordering from another well respected supplier as well. Much better fit and likeness to originals. 
>> 
>> With regards to the doors ‘changing shape’ when after adding glass, regulators, motors, handles, latches and locks. The weight makes a difference on how the door hangs but there’s probably a fair bit of distortion caused by tightening up all those components when bolting them to the inner door structure. In my opinion, all that stuff should be in place when finalizing bodywork prior to paint. 
>> 
>> Ryan Hill
>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Henry Schleimer <henry.schleimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ron
>>> 
>>> I do have Gary Goers rubbers and they may contribute but I find it hard to believe they could be flexing the door since it closes without excessive effort.  They may be forcing slack out of the hinges. I have scratched my head many times and not come up with an answer.  I had a look at some old photos and you can see when I got the car, the bottom third or so of the rear edge does not follow the body line.  It doesn't seem to have the same curve.  However when I got it back from painting, you can't really see the same problem and I was really happy with it.  See other photos.  The top of the door may have been too far in masking the problem.  Now with the weight of glass etc in the door and the rubbers on, it looks like it did originally. Very frustrating, but I think the problem is inherently in the steel. Note the bottom corner can touch the inside of the door opening if the door is pushed in too far (without rubber).  Maybe they bent it out on the production line to stop it hitting!
>>> 
>>> Note that the forward edge of the trunk (near the rear glass) seems to sit higher than the body which I didn't notice when the car didn't have rubbers fitted.  I think the rubber is taking slack out of the hinges and raising it slightly there.
>>> 
>>> Are there better alternative rubbers available?  Note the special door rubber insert at the top rear moulded by GG has disintegrated.  Better just to continue the rubber for the extra three inches or so.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Waters
>>> Sent: Friday, 11 December 2020 1:15 AM
>>> To: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: {Chrysler 300} RE: [Chrysler300] door adjustments
>>> 
>>> I found that the door rubbers that I purchased over the years from Gary Goers were too dense and as a result, caused doors to stick out, since there wasn't enough compression in the rubber. How did your doors fit before adding the weatherstrip ?
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Henry Schleimer' henry.schleimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 5:49 AM
>>> To: 'Gary Nelson'; 'Michael James'; 'RICHARD HUSS'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] door adjustments
>>> 
>>> My 300C driver's door has a similar problem.  I also had a problem trying to get the door glass to align with the rear glass so everything is on its extreme adjustment.  So, please check you have enough adjustment left in your glass before trying to twist the door.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My C's passenger door was replaced in its lifetime with a 1958 door..   It
>>> fits fine, so I put the whole thing down to poorly jigged door construction in 1957 with the new model.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When my car came back from the painters, I (and the panel beater I assume) didn't notice the problem with the door fit until I eventually put the new door rubbers on and the bottom wouldn't close properly.  So with new paint and glass fit problems, I'm going to live with it as it is.  The consequences of twisting the door could be worse.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Gary Nelson' gnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2020 7:23 AM
>>> To: Michael James; RICHARD HUSS; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] door adjustments
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think you need to rack the door. With a piece of 1/4" steel bar, about 1"
>>> wide X 6" long, drill a 3/8" hole through the center. Then drill a 3/8 hole at bottom of inner door skin. Insert bar stock and put a 3/8 eye bolt thru door skin and the bar with a nut on inside. Now you have a good solid place to pull on door skin without damage to sheet metal. Block the top of at least 6" open, then w/ come-a-long secured to opposite side, you can hook to eye bolt and start pulling, 
>>> 
>>> doors will rack. I did it on my 300C that came from factory with bottom edge of driver dr. sticking out 1/2", common to all 57's, it works. At first I would give it a good pull then release to see if if changed. If better but not complete you could pull and let it sit over night. You don't want to over pull it, it is possible buckle outer skin. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 4:19 AM
>>> 
>>> To: RICHARD HUSS <mailto:rhuss214192@xxxxxxxxxxx>  ; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] door adjustments
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If by in you mean flush with the rocker, you may want to adjust the striker on the body of the car, not the door.
>>> 
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>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2020, 6:26 AM, RICHARD HUSS rhuss214192@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried to install "hang" the passenger door on my 300G I did nothing more than remove it and strip and prime it. now I can't get the bottom of the door in far enough. I have adjusted the bottom hinge all the way in. It still is out a 1/4" + along the bottom. Top is fine. the front finder is lined up with the rocker so I don't want to bring the finder out. Any hints?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also I am still struggling with the hood shutting all the way. I am able to get both sides to close evenly but still up on both sides a 1/4 or so. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help before I take a hammer to it. Richard
>>> 
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