The wagon that Noel mentioned has rear air so with some custom lines it could be done. The Auto Pilot unit sits right where the driver side carburetor goes so it would have to be eliminated. More work than it’s probably worth but would look cool next to my 300F. Even looked at another T&C project car that had no air but it needed too much work for the price they were asking.
You should join the FL forum and share your project there. There is a lot of love for ’61 Plymouths and a lot of wagon fans.
From: rob bohuslav <sonoramic413@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:17 PM
To: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Noel Hastalis <cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx>; nick@xxxxxxxx; Jean-Yves Chouinard <jymopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; leslie miklas <ldmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Reproduction Cross Ram linkage
Nick,
Really appreciate the info. I think the Auto Pilot (cruise) may be a problem, but being its a Chrysler, I think air was optional on the ram cars. Plymouth did not offer it with the rams, though I'm sure a dealer would have installed an aftermarket, or optional under dash unit.
Yeah, looking forward to getting this thing done. Motor is headed off to the dyno once I get all this carb linkage sorted.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:07 PM John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Noel,
Was that the same one as I saw at Chicago 300 meet, with chromed Rams? Beautiful …..
In the middle of 61 wagon myself, ---with JY ! only a 383 though….
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Hastalis cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:19 PM
To: nick@xxxxxxxx; nick@xxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]; rob bohuslav
Cc: Jean-Yves Chouinard; chrysler300; leslie miklas
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Reproduction Cross Ram linkage
Hi Nick,
Have you seen John Cote's ram inducted air-conditioned '61 NYer wagon? - Here's the link to a Hemmings article on it - https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/pillarless-passion-1961-chrysler-new-yorker-town-country
I visited with John when he displayed it at the 2012 America's Concours d'Elegance in Plymouth, MI.
Noel
On April 16, 2020 at 2:43 PM "nick@xxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You’re welcome. Sounds like a cool project. I’d put the ram setup on my new ’60 New Yorker wagon but with the cruise control and dual air, it’s not going to fit without loosing options.
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of rob bohuslav sonoramic413@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 12:28 PM
To: nick@xxxxxxxx
Cc: Jean-Yves Chouinard <jymopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; leslie miklas <ldmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Reproduction Cross Ram linkage
Awesome sir! Thanks for the info!
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:13 PM <nick@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is where using this archaic mailing list shows it’s limitations. A real forum is so much better. I don’t know if I’ll get in trouble for this but here’s a link to a real forum that shows pictures - http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=40240
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of rob bohuslav sonoramic413@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:04 AM
To: Jean-Yves Chouinard <jymopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; leslie miklas <ldmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Reproduction Cross Ram linkage
I know it make take a little effort, but it would sure be nice to see some of this in pictures, with side by side comparisons. I too am converting a non-ram car to a ram car, but I have the correct linkage, or so I think.... I bought it from the folks at JC Auto year ago.
I'm at a slight disadvantage, as the car currently has a 318 Poly motor (Not even a B or RB motor) in it now. ('61 Plymouth Station Wagon).
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Jean-Yves Chouinard jymopar@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm the guy reproducing the ram car linkage.
If someone is converting a non ram engine to a ram engine, the firewall linkage pivot is different.
On ram engines, the vertical flat piece on the firewall linkage( where the linkage from the bell crank hooks onto) is further to the passenger side .. I did not measure exacly by how much but a visual check between my 300G and a 1961 Newport I have in my shop at the moment makes me think at least 3 inches. And yes , there's a slight twist in the vertical piece.
On non ram engines, that vertical piece is inline with the linkage rod coming out of the left side of the carburator and is not twisted.
I also noticed that the support bracket bolted to the transmission ( the one with the white plactis clip in it) is shaped differently between my 300G and the Newport, but I cannot confirm if the one on the Newport is original or has been changed. I know the one on my G is original.
So that part may also need to be changed if converting a non ram car to a ram car.
Jean-Yves Chouinard, New Brunswick Canada..
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of leslie miklas ldmiklas@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: April 16, 2020 4:53 AM
To: chrysler300 <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Chrysler300] Reproduction Cross Ram linkage
List:
I saw an ad in the past for complete reproduction cross ram linkage..
Can't recall who was offering it. Does anyone recall who this person might be?
I seem to think it might be Yves Chauinard.
Also, a friend is converting a 61 Newport from 361 4V to 413 cross ram power. I told him his firewall linkage was probably the same - just the arm for the bellcrank rod might need a slight twist. Am I correct or not? I know the rod from the arm to the bellcrank will need to be replaced.
I should know this but have forgotten too many things.
Thank you !
Jeff Miklas
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