RE: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?

I second Mark,--perfectly said. Thank you Mark, for putting that so well. . It is a lot of work to put on one of these; worth your vacation days? I think so. If not, that is an individual choice…

Trying to accommodate those with less discretionary income or retired is a laudable thing, a goal worth careful thought before backing away. .

I flew AA to California from Boston, not 15$ to do that, for two people round trip . . Glad I did, wonderful meet.

John Grady

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 354hemi@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 3:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?

I'd just like to express my thanks to those of you who have stepped up to become meet hosts, who, along with the support of experienced and knowledgeable Club members, have worked so hard and made the many difficult decisions intrinsic in the process of structuring each meet. Whether coming alone, or with family, the meets have become a high priority in what we choose to during the year because of the fine group of people we are sure to see, the fascinating places we might otherwise never get to see and interesting cars, drives and events. They are enough of a priority to set aside vacation days, whatever days of the week they may be. They aren't necessarily inexpensive, but very little is these days and I appreciate the efforts put forth in trying to keep things affordable. The true payoff is in memories we make and get to keep.

To those stepping up to the important and sometimes thankless job of coordinate future meets, keep up the good work, it is more appreciated than you might realize. Hope to see everyone in RI. I think Michael Falcone has a wonderful event planned for us.

Mark Obermann

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The hotel cost has always been high. Maybe we're not a big enough group to negotiate cheaper rates by guaranteeing a certain number of room-nights ? I've offset the cost by staying at AirBnBs for about half the price.

Cheaper price becomes a moot point if people have work obligations and/or don't want to use up so many vacation days.

Ron

From: Michael J Falcone [mailto:mjf175@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:28 AM
To: Ron Waters
Cc: Rob Kern; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?

I think the higher cost of weekend meets would keep more people from going. I talked to a lot of club members about planning a meet and keeping the cost down was important

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On Jul 16, 2018, at 9:58 PM, 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@... [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Rob -

While there is no doubt that midweek rates are cheaper, it creates an issue for folks that are gainfully employed, resulting in people deciding against making the trip. Even those that live closeby and can do the drive in less than a day.

Just because you haven't personally heard complaining doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Yes, one of the main reasons for attending is to hobnob with other 300 club members. But it's also to see the cars. How was the attendance (cars, people) at the last two meets ? Do you think more members would have attended if the shows had been on a Saturday instead of a Wednesday ?

The Carmel meet was a great one. Days were shifted to allow us onto Laguna Seca. Then things returned to normal until last year when they shifted to Sunday-Thursday, which is apparently where they will be from now on.

Maybe a poll could be conducted among all members, not just the ones that regularly attend meets, to see if there is a preference.

Ron

From: Rob Kern [mailto:robkern@...]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:54 PM
To: Ron Waters
Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?
Ron,
This topic was first discussed at Meet business meetings as far back as 2010. The first was hosted in June, 2011 by Larry Jett at Carmel, California. A number of factors were involved for making it a Sunday to Thursday venue but the meet attendance was swell. I have not heard at all an issue by club members over not attending meets whether beginning mid-week or on a Sunday. So I am only stating the facts that I discovered in planning my 5th Meet that I have hosted but the first for a Sunday through Thursday schedule and it is also s first for me to host a spring meet. Most club members' dominant buying motive for attending meets is to see their club friends and meet hosts try to make the cost involved as inexpensive as possible but in a nice environment and provide opportunities for club members to see interesting things in the area were the meet is held whether automotive related or not. I remember being limited to vacation time at many meets where I had to cut short my attendance to get back to work and it was sad not to stay for the whole meet.. 300’ly, Rob Kern

On Jul 15, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Ron Waters <ronbo97@...> wrote:

Hey Rob -

So you don't feel that less folks/cars would be able to attend if the meet is mid-week than if it's Thursday thru Sunday ? For example, I would fly in on Thursday and stay thru Sunday, taking two vacation days. If the convention is Sunday thru Thursday, then I would have to take minimum four vacation days. This is a 'deal breaker' for me (and likely for others). Cheaper rates vs. more club members in attendance.

Has this shift been discussed in the club's business meetings ?

Thanks,

Ron

From: Rob Kern [mailto:robkern@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 9:46 PM
To: Ron Waters; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?
Hello 300’ly to all!
The mid-week rate is less expensive…confirmed by my getting ready to sign contract for the spring, 2019 meet I am hosting in Lewisville, Texas (Dallas). It will be from Sunday April 28th to Thursday May 2nd (departure date). Rate is $20 per night less and meeting room rental rate is $100 less. More event times are available Monday through Wednesday also. So stay tuned for Riding to Dallas Folks! Rob Kern

On Jul 15, 2018, at 6:22 PM, 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@... [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Now that most club members are retired...

I'm willing to bet 1.00 USD that this is factually inaccurate. Just sayin'...

Ron

From: Michael J Falcone [mailto:mjf175@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 8:51 PM
To: agmoon300@...; ronbo97@...
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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?
Now that most club members are retired, and I believe the last two meets were also during the week. The room rate was much less and tourism is much lighter during the week making it easier to get places. And like Gloria mentioned it was to work with the Hemmings Show.

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From: Gloria Moon agmoon300@... [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ron Waters <ronbo97@...>
Cc: *300-Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Why is the Convention Mid-Week ?

Sure Ron,
Some 300 owners have been invited to show their 300s in the concours listed below as one of the featured marques. So it was felt that a nice segue and non-competing meet would be to have one following the other- Chrysler 300 Club International Inc. and then nearby the 2018 Concours D' Elegance .. Here is the information on the Lake George Concours. We hope you can attend both meets.
Gloria Moon

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Hosted By: Charles R. Wood Park
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Where: Festival Commons at Charles R. Wood Park, 17-19 West Brook Road Lake George, NY 12845
Cost: Variety of pricing for the weekend
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9am - 4pm - Check-In at the Festival Commons, Lake George, New York.
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 2:02 PM, 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@... [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All -

Can someone explain why the upcoming Newport convention is Sunday thru Thursday, rather than Wednesday thru Sunday, as it has been for decades ? This really plays havoc with folks that have to work during the week.

Thanks,

Ron