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John, I keep my 300H as original as possible and I never trailer it. When I was trying to get the drive train sorted out and chasing gremlins all the way back to the rear brakes, I began to buy stuff, like Champion J-12Y plugs from E-bay, correct NOS breaker points (1960’s condensers are not a good idea I discovered) . Fortunately, I have a newer car to drive, but when I drive my 300H, I prefer it to drive like a 300H did in 1962 or as close to it as possible. Now that it’s sorted, I find it enjoyable and a stark reminder of how far automotive technology has come. I also appreciate seeing what others have done to make their letter cars more modern/usable. Mike Moore 300H
On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:44 AM, 'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Agree 100%, ----while respecting beyond belief those who want it all original. (and their trailer) The only way to drive all original is to proactively go after and periodically change the well known trouble spots. That works , and you can drive confidently. Almost says you have one original 300 and pay attention to it , big time. Or else you get 100 miles from home and it stops,. My own worries center on the fuel system from tank to carb…. With several cars (ahem) .it hates sitting with alcohol high test in WCFB, and fuel pump –(and puddle in bottom of “drained” tank!!) and if you let it run out/ drain it 100% you cannot jump in and go. Often the leather washer dries out in accel pump too. Fuel additives like Stabl are ethanol (hello?—=PT Barnum) (see the prior Briggs and Stratton info)_ I have taken to leaving sock off in tank, adding a 80$ big 6” long Moroso stainless mesh “openable” race filter outside at tank, you know why.---this learned after my many 35-48 Packard years.---crud/ rust chips form in the old gas tank, clogging the sock, or (Packard) getting in suction line to pump, where rust chips will wedge in the pump inlet check valve, holding it open =no fuel. 37 Packards were “real old cars” in 1965 ( wow 27 years!!) ..and this was a killer—whole family in Easter best , dressed like 30’s-- it starts and drives away fine , then dies on a major highway. . Fantastic cars, however. This way you can open and clean it without dropping tank, putting at pump not as good as the long steel intake line also fills up.,..and can rust inside too, even if polished outside for concours. It offers almost no restriction on suction itself also important . The gas tank liners fall off inside and make all this worse, despite the wonderful claims (twice) .New tank is necessary now. And fortunately being made. Makes one think of copper fuel line too.. Got off subject, but the “why people do this” matters? A 300 F torquflight in a 55 is a good idea if driving or racing it? ----or better put, maybe not a bad idea. Maybe. Good to see price not getting murdered over it. From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Boonstra kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] My observation from watching several hours of B-J auctions over the past week is that bone-stock originality of all cars - and trucks - from our era is no longer prized as it once was. Modification for driving comfort, safety, and updated appearance actually seemed to carry a considerable premium in the market this time, almost without exception. If it was tastefully done, mods seemed to bother the bidders not at all. Even the TV commentators would often be heard to make note of alterations and comment, "No harm there". Perhaps it was not a correct perception, but it even seemed to me there was a line of demarcation in bid prices that had beautiful as-original cars generally falling under $50K, and nicely done mild-to-wild modifieds typically reaching over that $50K mark - sometimes by a huge amount. Bidders also seemed to be reaching for anything that would set the car on the block in some prominence over its fellow production-line peers. A history of famous name ownership perhaps - such as the Bob Lutz claim of this C300 - or a record of gaining racing laurels as this one again claimed. What commanded the excitement and the dollars of the bidders in the B-J auction was a singularity that made a car stand where its comparatives could not. And sometimes it was a high degree of customization that appealed. The times they are a-changin'. Somebody ought to write a song by that name. When I first became interested in the hobby, true automotive survivorship was the only thing we knew and prized. Then around thirty years ago - maybe more - folks started creating "as new" show cars, even from junk yard relics, right down to the inspection stampings. There was no shame at all - even pride - in having a trailer queen that was not allowed to have its tires soiled. When I first met up with the 300 Cub folks, it honestly surprised me that members relished driving their 300s all over the country - and even beating on them. They said they enjoyed that and fixing them more than keeping them as ready as possible for a concours. That was new to me then, but I have to say its been a lot more fun to treat my old-timers that way - including my C. As long as there is water to clean them up again, and parts and friends to fix them, I'll keep on enjoying the pleasure of hitting the road with these oldies - until the day my kids sneak my license out of my wallet and shred it. So in a way what we are seeing at the auctions is an extension of what we in the 300 Club have long felt about our old Brutes. We want to hit the road and enjoy these old cars while we still can. And like us, other owners are now looking for eye candy, comfort, convenience, and reliability in their old-car driving experience. They will even pay what premium it takes to buy the road-worthiness of a modern drivetrain. The ranks of we old folks who are able, and know how, to fool with these relics of ours are thinning now. If it takes this turn to modernization to preserve the interest of yet another generation in the hobby, before the self-drivers give us the boot from our roads, I'm all for its happening. The alternative can only be internment in somebody's museum until .......what? Keith Boonstra - On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:40 PM, 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Think what it might have sold for if left completely ’55 stock?? Anyway, this rising tide should lift all boats (and beasts). Rich Barber Brentwood, CA From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Holst jholst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] The 1955 Red C300 sold for $129,250 as shown on their .site. __._,_.___ Posted by: Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/manage/edit For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang __,_._,___ |
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