And from Minnesota, where the motto is…. Minnesota…… Come for the culture and the lakes…. Stay because your car won’t start. From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Knutsen, Mark' Mark.Knutsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:14 AM To: Rich Barber; 'Ray Jones'; 'Carlton Schroeder' Cc: 'Listsaver 300 Club' Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Biofuel mandate Ray, I think Rich will back me up on this - Iowa corn is way too good to go into ethanol. My guess is it all comes from Illinois. J Happy 300’ding Mark Knutsen 300G Currently in Winter Hibernation From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:15 AM To: 'Ray Jones'; 'Carlton Schroeder' Cc: 'Listsaver 300 Club' Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Biofuel mandate Politics and economics aside, consider our 1955 to very recent 300’s. If you liked what 10% ethanol did for performance, mileage, gaskets, hoses, gas tank, fuel pumps & carbs you will love what 15% will do. Cheap oil makes corn gas look even worse economically. As an Iowa State Mechanical Engineering graduate, I have no qualms in stating that production of corn and ethanol for motor fuel is thermodynamically, chemically, economically, physically and environmentally undefendable—plus it will rot H-E-double hockey sticks out of the fuel systems of our treasured older 300’s. A double plus for brain-dead environmentalists and the ethanol lobby. Rich Barber Brentwood, CA (Cheap gas is $2.35/gallon out here—Maybe $0.50/gallon higher than in your state due to the inexplicable simultaneous problems with several refineries that produce California-Grade motor fuel. Gasoline from your state is just not good enough for our 300’s and we can’t get them to run on rice.) From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Jones 1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:40 PM To: Carlton Schroeder <schroe99@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Listsaver 300 Club <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Ray Jones <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Biofuel mandate Nothing new here. ANYONE who understands physics, has known this for many years. When you dilute gas with 10% Ethanol you then have to burn more than a gallon to go as far as 1 gal of plain gas. All this so that 300 million cars have to use gas that the feds mandate must have 10% Ethanol to support 500 Iowa corn growers. These are your lobbyists at work. Not to mention that the feds pay the refiners of Ethanol, 50 cents a gallon subsidy. So, every gallon you burn has a 5cent Federal payment included. Looks to me that this is the first place that the Tea Party should be looking to save money. Ray On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:26 PM, 'Carlton Schroeder' schroe99@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello, The link below should take you to an ExxonMobil magazine called the Lamp. I could not make a direct link to the article about our nations biofuel mandate that might be of interest to some of you. You will have to go to the table of contents at the bottom on the 2nd page that has the young fellow on the left side; zoom in on the biofuel article, and click on the page no. to go to the one page biofuel article. My take was that the mandate needs to be reconsidered. Carlton http://read.uberflip.com/i/619266-exxonmobil-lamp-2015-v2-1 -- Ray Jones. Y'all come on down an see us. Ya hear? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Posted by: "David Schwandt" <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/manage/edit For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/