Re: [Chrysler300] Facebook Page

Good morning, all.

I will try to be constructive, as this is obviously a touchy subject.

I am taking another chance to offer my opinion about the “list server” approach to interaction, whereby every time someone posts a question, or has a part to offer, or sees an ad somewhere for a letter car. This adds up to quite a bulk of emails, often pertaining to subjects not of interest to everyone on the list. Sure, I can “just delete it”, but it is a hassle to do so for what amounts to scores of emails a week. Not all of us have time to find the wheat among the chaff.

To quote a popular commercial, which shows a senior directing attention to photos taped on her wall, “this is not how any of this works”. There is a better way, and it is not done by emailing everybody everything. Now, open the door to photos, and it is a deal-killer. The alternative is a “Bulletin Board” approach, a vastly more functional and targeted way of letting the user explore their own interests, instead of inundating their inbox. Here is an example: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/

Change is hard, but in this case is needed if you want to attract and keep your audience. I do find value in the mix of postings, and in having the ability to tap the expertise out there. But when you share everyone’s email with everybody, the overload is unwelcome. I am certain I am not the only who feels this way.

I really do not want to abandon the group, but what went on this weekend is a perfect example of the futility of the list server environment. I thank everyone who spends their time in administration and support of group activities, but there is a much better way of organizing, storing and sharing a repository of techniques, history, photographs, items/cars for sale, etc.

Our cars can represent an embrace of times gone by, but our communications shouldn’t. Thanks-

Hugh Baldus
The Baldus Company
260.424.2366

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Souders MRS954@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:38 AM
To: rmreed@xxxxxxxxx; bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Facebook Page

So, it looks like it's a public page. That means anyone on Facebook can see posts and also post anything on it. A word to the wise: Careful what you post.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Reed <rmreed@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Bob Merritt <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Mark Souders <MRS954@xxxxxxx>; 'Bob Jasinski' <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Chrysler 300 Club Intl.' <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Dec 14, 2015 7:30 am
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Facebook Page

Wow, it's been out there since at least January, 2011! I didn't know of it. Probably because I wasn't paying attention (not a Facebook user).

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Bob Merritt' bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]<mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%20[Chrysler300]>
To: Mark Souders<mailto:MRS954@xxxxxxx> ; 'Bob Jasinski'<mailto:rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; 'Chrysler 300 Club Intl.'<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:13 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Facebook Page

Our Facebook page is

https://www.facebook.com/Chrysler-300-Club-International-172828099428951/

It is set up so anyone can post to it, text or pictures.

------ Original Message ------
From: "'Mark Souders' MRS954@xxxxxxx<mailto:MRS954@xxxxxxx> [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: "'Bob Jasinski'" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>>; "'Chrysler 300 Club Intl.'" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: 12/13/2015 6:45:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] The test

Perhaps there should be a “Chrysler 300 Club, Int’l” Facebook page. It can be a closed or private group, so anyone who wants to see posts must join through an administrator. It works well for the other clubs I’m in, and it should work well for this club as well. Any picture can be posted without a bunch of difficulty. Several of us are already on the Chrysler 300 Appreciation Society Facebook page.
Happy Moparing,
Mark
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of 'Bob Jasinski' rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx> [Chrysler300]
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'Chrysler 300 Club Intl.' <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] The test

" A picture is worth a thousand words" We all know this to be true. Security issues aside, the server should allow images somehow. All of us get unwanted email, with pictures, on a daily basis, and it fills up our junk folder, so we deal with it. I'd love to be able to receive images from fellow 300 members through the server to broaden the usefulness of the list and promote communication between members. This is 2015, not 1999 anymore. Embedded pictures make more sense than attachments too..
Bob J
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon LabLoverDC@xxxxxxx<mailto:LabLoverDC@xxxxxxx> [Chrysler300]
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 7:54 AM
To: Michael Reed
Cc: Chrysler 300 Club Intl.; Bob Merritt
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] The test

Personally, I LOVE the list server. I've received very valuable advice, and really enjoy reading all of the comments. I've also found some critical parts I needed, and made helpful contacts with other members. So, I consider the list server a very valuable asset associated with being a club member.
However, the one thing that has always disappointed me is the lack of images. To me, it would be so helpful and interesting to actually see everyone's car, project, thing they had a question about, etc. I belong to two other Yahoo Groups, and both allow it. Same with a multitude of forums I've visited. Collectively on those groups we all enjoy visual exchange of information.
If images could be included as attachments, if security or speed of downloading is a concern, one could always choose to simply not open the attachment. For that matter, it takes perhaps a half second to read a subject line and delete the entire email if it is not of interest. That's a simple solution to avoid overloading inboxes.
I see the fundamental purpose of the list server as communication, and as much as I appreciate even having the list server, an ability to conveniently engage in visual communication would make it just that much better, in my opinion.
Shannon
300F convertible under restoration

On Dec 13, 2015, at 6:22 AM, 'Michael Reed' rmreed@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rmreed@xxxxxxxxx> [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Speaking as a retired systems analyst, I agree with Bob's reluctance. Bob should continue with his reluctance, and change nothing regarding images.
Secondarily, I have enough stuff coming into my system daily without images adding to the bulk. Text take very little disk space, memory and download time. Let's leave things as they are.

Mike Reed in Hastings, Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: mailto:awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx%20[Chrysler300]
To: mailto:300country@xxxxxxx%20[Chrysler300] ; c 300 Club Listserver<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] The test

Hi Don,
You guys are spinning your wheels. Bob or you need to go to the Yahoo Groups and change the preferences to allow jpgs.
I have had this discussion with Bob before and he is reluctant to allow photos for security reasons.
Tony

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On Saturday, December 12, 2015, 7:05 PM, 'Don Warnaar' 300country@xxxxxxx<mailto:300country@xxxxxxx> [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Well, another no go. Bill will have to give us very specific directions.
Don Warnaar

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