Re: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?

Google found several gas stations here in New Mexico that supposedly sell non-ethanol gas, but phone calls to 4 of the 9 stations listed confirmed that none of them did any more, so the Google info is outdated. Economic pressure from the Federal Government has been pushing vendors to increase the proportion of ethanol-contaminated gas throughout the country, but it appears that the ratio of bad/good gas quotas vary from one region to another depending on the region (or state) and even the season (Must sell greater proportion of bad gas in Winter for pollution control. See the article below: (Probably have to cut/paste)

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ethanol-free-gasoline-may-not-be-available-soon/

The last time I was able to get ethanol-free gas here in Las Cruces was the Summer of 2011. I spoke to the district manager about that subject back then, and he told me the very same thing as the article, and in pretty specific regulatory and economic terms, so I was convinced that he knew what he was talking about. Our *#&^@%$! Federal Gov't honking things up AGAIN - or should I say "STILL"! However, I have found that most marine applications cannot accommodate any ethanol in the gas, and so the industry has come up with some solutions to deal with the non-availability of the pure gas, in the form of fuel additives that claim to negate the adverse effects of ethanol. Some empirical surveys indicate that the best additive is "Star-tron Enzyme Fuel Treatment", which is a line of additives for use in automobiles, small engines and boats (even a formula for diesels) to address not only ethanol problems, but also fuel degradation during long-term storage. I've been putting this in all my gasoline engines for over a year -- although I can't claim any statistical improvement, it may be like "chicken soup" cure for colds! Lucas also makes a similar additive. See this link to Star-tron below:

http://www.starbrite.com/en/startron

Ray Melton

On 3/5/2015 5:22 PM, 'Gloria Moon' agmoon@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] wrote:

To our knowledge there are NO non-ethanol gas stations in our whole state, let alone the big city Baltimore/DC Metro. area. We are surprised that so many other states have non-ethanol fuel available!!! Maryland can't be the only state like this. Anybody else out there in a state that doesn't give their citizens a choice?

If we are wrong, please let us know where to go (other than an airfield). We have no airplane numbers to use. Anything near the extreme eastern Mason Dixon Line on the Pa. side? The ones in the Lancaster area are either closed or no longer offer the fuel. Of course the law of diminishing returns plays in. We can only go so far to get it.

Anybody got anything?

Please advise.

Thanks.

A&G

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From: 'C Bilter' cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]

To: Ray Melton ; Chrysler 300 Club, Int'l

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?

Any motor vehicle or gas fired engine in the state of Iowa can use the non-ethanol gas, including modern iron. We just have to pay a price premium for it; about $0.40/gallon more than the ethanol crap which, of course, is artificially discounted to promote usage. And most folks here will buy the ethanol crap simply because it is the cheapest gas, and they could care less about what it does to their engines or vehicles, or are simply clueless about it. The ethanol pumps have stickers that say “cleaner air for Iowa” or something to that effect which is absolute bunk. I don’t know how the farmers feel about it, but a big part of our state economy is based on agriculture or ag related.

Carl B

From: mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:56 PM

To: Chrysler 300 Club, Int'l

Subject: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?

If older farm vehicles can be exempted from using ethanol-contaminated gasoline, is there any reason that our older pre-ethanol 300's can't get a similar exemption? Or is that just another perk our wonderful government has bestowed upon (bribed) the farmers who will grow the virtually inedible variety of corn used to make ethanol?

Ray Melton
Las Cruces, NM

On 3/5/2015 3:10 PM, 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] wrote:

What I meant was…

Lots of the older farm equipment require non ethanol fuel,

Not a problem finding it at all around here, thank goodness!

Plus, it makes all my old Kohlers in Cub Cadets purr like a kitten!!

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Boonstra kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:50 PM
To: David Schwandt
Cc: 300-Gil Cunningham; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]

Wait, what ????!!

The ethanol is mandated by the politicians for the sole purpose of supporting the Iowa corn farmers who support the politicians for supporting mandated ethanol, and the Iowa farmers who grow corn for ethanol get to have plentiful non-E gas for their own use???

You have GOT to be kidding !!!

Can a country secede from itself?

Keith Boonstra

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:56 AM, 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

We are lucky here in that we can get non-E gas most anywhere, thanks to the farmers!

Gil, are Ya gonna bring the Blue F to PA this summer??

We are thinking on it.

Dave Schwandt

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lettercars@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:26 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]

Terry and All:

Knock on wood----I have not had the ethanol trouble---at least not yet! A couple weeks ago I started up my 300F for the first time in over a year (ashamed of that!) and took it for a fairly exuberant drive. It started very well with a little gasoline poured in each carb, and ran just fine. I will say that one of my stops on that little excursion was a fill up with NON-ethanol fuel at the local Marathon station. At least I feel better now!

300ly, Gil C.

In a message dated 3/2/2015 2:49:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

I just read in Autoweek mag Jay Leno's essay on the evils of ethanol. In my 300F I have been running a mix of 100+ octane leaded aviation gas and pump premium spiked with the normal amount of ethanol. Has anybody in the Club experienced any problems with today's ethanol-infused gas? Jay talks about rubber parts (in fuel pumps, for example) being eaten up and ensuing engine fires. Terry McTaggart

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