Re: [Chrysler300] 413 motor I/d help

["Robert Merritt okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Caution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

413 Truck engines are not the same as 413 car engines.

At least in the larger trucks, they have timing gears instead of chain, which means the cam and distributor turn backwards to car engines, and there are also other differences in push-rods, etc..

I once knew a shop that tried to install a car short block in a 2-ton farm truck, and couldn't get it to run. I shared both a car and truck shop manual with them and we finally got it figured out.

I believe we ended up using a set of adjustable push-rods and a car distributor, but that has been 20+ years ago, so I may be wrong.

It was just before harvest, and the farmer having the work done was frantic to get it going.

Bob Merritt

North central Oklahoma

!965 barn-stored 300-L and parts car

On Monday, March 2, 2015 12:04 PM, "John Nowosacki jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

I think there were also differences in the water pump/cooling/intake/heads on the motor home engines.  The heads look like big block heads, but have slanted spark plugs like a 318 or 340.

Water pump housing on front of motor was different, too.  I used to have a set of heads, but couldn't even give them away at Carlisle.

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On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:52 PM, 'Rick Vitek' rpvitek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/
<http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/motor/36.html> motor/36.html will
provide you most of the info you are looking for. Production of the RB
engines ceased in 1978 (I believe). 413's were made up to the end for
truck/motorhome/industrial use. The first two digits of the displacement
were used up to 1965 when three digits were used. So 41 suggests a pre '65
413. But it should have a letter before the 41(3) to denote year (see
webpage linked above). See also the block casting number to narrow down year
range. The "E" after the number may refer to a cast crankshaft.

Blocks should be the same internally. Heads used vary. Here are some sample
numbers for later production 413's.

2899 913

60-71 413 Truck

2899 943

71-77 361 Truck / 413

Once you narrow down year/application you can look up spec's such as
horsepower, cr, etc.

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of christopher thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 7:09 AM
To:
Subject: [Chrysler300] 413 motor I/d help

Chrysler 300F and Gs used 413s - very briefly, and maybe just offlist
replies back to me - how similar were 413s used in motorhomes - re
good/same heads etc?
- and until what year were 413s built/used in say motorhomes?
Were the motorhome ones a much lower power/specs?!

The motor I am looking at apparently has prefixe "E'" stamped after "41"
stamping on pad atop block, and has an alloy case auto trans bolted up, but
trans still has handbrake on rear - alloy case is all one piece like later
727 torqueflights. I am looking at putting it in my '59 Dodge 2 dr - sump I
need to do that has deep rear, whereas the 413 has the deep part of sump pan
at front where it will foul the xmember - do the 300F/G have deep rear or
deep front sumps?

Christopher in Australia

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