Re: [Chrysler300] Hemmings Daily 300G stick coupe

Hi Andy,

Very interested it was NP transmission ? Reason being i was there at the time , street racing my 392 powered 57 d500 , which ate about 15 mopar pre 61 stick shift transmissions . They were , without reservation pure junk .. Probably in B and C D sticks. They had pin syncros , pins break off on fast shift fall into gear mesh , plus392 would relocate all the first gear teeth to bottom of case without touching clutch . On a 300 would be top gear only deal , unless driven like a toyota . I changed it to Packard od w 3:70,s . That worked, although 6-8 of those blew before I learned how to build right . Velvetouch disc 3800 lb Dodge oil truck clutch B&B.

But Story OfThe Day was the 61 Mopar stick was a T 85 . excellent trans used in big Ford cop cars, Ford trucks . Also rumor, it was in 62 max wedges ; Chrysler tested T 10 4 spd , broke them. Correct --as 421 poncho frequently stripped T10 input gear. Not debating parts list or info . .. Just contradicts old story . Street rumor may have been wrong .. Or maybe both ? Was NP around in 61? first i heard of them was mopar 4 spd .

Best GM i ever got with that 57 dodge (convert d500 stick/392--wish i had it stock today --100k?) was brand new 61 421 pontiac tri power ventura coupe 4 speed . Beautiful car . What a night. !!

425 409 could get me though , so end of homebuilt era . 25 of those around . But saw 62 max wedge 3spd kill fastest one . One 327 300 hp almost as fast , held C gas at about 13.1 , note that is 3seconds faster than most 300's (sigh) 1000 $ bet on the max wedge, loved collecting from chev guys , plus409 blew up top of third . 62 was an unreal year .. Even in that era, a 300B held top end , but not good at dragging

"you should see that big white chrysler step out at 100 !"
John

By the way , fastest car then around Boston was a 50 olds coupe 450 " 394 olds, hydrostick , tri power J2, center carb on gas , end carbs on alcohol . How about those apples ! 50 olds has a great rear suspension ; 4:1 first in hydro stick , he was gone.
On Jan 8, 2015, at 1:38 AM, "Andy Mikonis r41hp@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]"<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, the AMA specs for 300G confirm the 3-speed manual was standard with the 400-hp engine and optional with the 375-hp engine.

I don't know where the figure of 14 came from, but I've seen it before and it's not verified. Gil told me in 2006 he estimated 39 to 48 stick Gs. Don't know if that has changed.

We can infer from the results that four 400-hp Gs ran Flying Mile at Daytona, plus a couple 375-hp Gs - perhaps Torqueflite cars (per Burt Bouwkamp.) And yes one G ran faster than the F in 1960 and would have broken the record but was disqualified for losing a chrome strip.

So the rest of the 3-speed Gs were predominantly standard 375-hp engine cars.

You can see in the photo that the G at auction is a 375-hp. This is corroborated in its build record. It is a known car. So, it's not a NASCAR spec, etc. The "281 code" does not indicate anything more than the transmission. There is indeed evidence that it was some sort of press car, but not the (also red 3-speed) car pictured in Motor Trend and Motor Life as was once claimed years ago.

To that point, I don't know why they are saying it is a Borg Warner transmission. The parts book shows 300Gs had the Chrysler-made New Process A-745 which was an all-new for 1961 heavy-duty 3-speed manual transmission that was used perhaps up to 1971. As a press car, I'm sure Chrysler wanted the press to drive the all-new transmission, not some obscure one-off B-W fitment.

300ly,
Andy M.

On Jan 7, 2015, at 4:19 PM, 'Bob Jasinski' rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

According to the Motor Trend 6/1961 review of the stick shift G, "The stick shift is mandatory with this powerhouse (300G 400 HP option) replacing an imported four-speed box used in the 400 HP 300F" The standard 375 HP 300G, could be had with either torqueflite or 3 speed manual (at extra cost).

Bob J

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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Hemmings Daily 300G stick coupe

I thought the stick G's were short ram/high performance 400 HP, Like the F four speed? and both used alternator charging systems.

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:30:15 -0800
Subject: [Chrysler300] Hemmings Daily 300G stick coupe

For those that don't get Hemmings Daily, the top story is of a red G coupe with a stick transmission option code 281 going up for auction at Barrett Jackson:.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/01/07/gentlemans-express-rare-option-code-281-chrysler-300g-to-cross-the-block/?refer=news

The copy indicates there were only 14 made. Has this been documented within the Club? I thought that was the 300F number with manual trans. built.

Bob J

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