Ryan & others - saw this as it too cold o/side on Sat morn
here, and I came back inside, and felt a reply/thought was needed
Ryan
raises a good point re old cars owned by lots of people getting older, and
young nowadays maybe not as into old cars.
But against that is my just
posted question - how many good/correct early 300s are there today?
On
auction results over the last few months, it seems a mid 50s Gullwing Mercedes
is now a million dollar car. OK how many 'factory correct '57 -60 300s are
there in the world today versus Gullwings - my guess is there might be more
WAY MORE Gullwings.
Take early 60s Austin Healey - other day there were
140 for sale in the UK at around $100,000 - one hundred and forty
!!! OK maybe there is only one Healey buyer left in the UK, and there is
s current glut. But how is a Healey worth more than a perfect 300C of 300F -
AND THAT BEFORE TRY FINDING 5 perfect 300Cs, Fs etc??!
(I have my dad's
Healey, so I am not knocking them/Healeys)
The money and the buyers are
out there - we just have you get our 300ly act together better.
Especially if there are not big numbers of good/correct 300s out there - are
there maybe only 50-100 restored/correct ones of each early year?! Or what
numbers?!
I have a '62 XKE Jag - there were a sensation when released
in 1961 - because of 140mph performance, plus handling - and their looks
were amazing
But guess what - a 1957 300C Chrysler has near all this 4
years before - just in a bigger car. But wow you drive a well sorted 300C, and
it is just as must an eye opener re how fast and competent it was as the later
E Type that stunned the World. US Auto writer Tom McCahill was I think stunned
at how good those early 300s were - and he was no fool/mug?!!
I have
owned over 100 collector/other good performance cars - my (mainly orig
mechanically) 57 300C and XKE roadster are amazing cars for their day, and
even today stand tall, are just so good a package versus cars that buyers pay
way higher stupid prices for. People rubbish the orig brakes, but my
stock 300C will lock/slide the wheels no worries despite the best modern 235
75 15 radials, so brakes were not that bad. And mine are the same linings on
the car when I bought it 35 yrs ago!!
And it runs hard, with that so good
auto, that new front suspension - they were the whole package, just like an
XKE with radials still is today.
They (the true 300s) are cars worthy of
good prices, so please do not say they are at their best prices ever/now -
only reason that will happen is if we do not let others know how good they
really are/were, or just say 'sell em off cheap' !??
going outside
again now, turning PC off - over to others, hope you got nicer driving weather
than here today,
Christopher
To: pffkllc@xxxxxxx; ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From:
Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:39:34
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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Bill Korbel's 300G at Russo
Steele
I'm afraid we'll all have to face it that the upcoming
generations just aren't interested in most of these cars we hold so dear. As
time goes by there are fewer and fewer people out there looking for these
brutes (and others) and at the same time we're increasing the number of
quality cars by restoring them. Supply and Demand......the supply is
rising and fro what i see the demand is dropping (especially when people
who are genuinely interested in owning these cars are hit with the
sticker shock of 60 - 200k as an asking price)
If you own
these cars as investments, I'd say it's time to sell. If you own them because
you love them, keep your foot down on the right pedal and enjoy
yourself.
Ryan Hill
To: ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From:
Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:57:25
-0400
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Bill Korbel's 300G at Russo
Steele
A non-reserve car is only worth what the bidders at the auction are
willing to pay. It could be that there were only two potential bidders,
and one of them wasn't that interested in the car. Had there been 5
active bidders, it might have gone a lot higher. It does, however, point
out the risk in putting your car up for auction without a reserve price.
Pete Fitch
In a message dated 8/22/2014 8:35:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Is this indicative of a slumping car market ? This was
a #1 car. Hagerty website says that a #1 300G is worth about
95K.
Ron
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Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:16 PM
Subject:
Re: [Chrysler300] Bill Korbel's 300G at Russo Steele
I just went onto the web site of the
auctioneer that sold the car in Monterey, CA. It sold for $60,600. There
was no reserve on the car at auction.
Steve Simon
300 G
That award was a crowning moment for Billy. I can still
picture the big beaming smile on his face as the award was
announced. He was just thrilled. Little did we know that he
would not be around all that much longer. Glad to have known him
and also his father who attended many meets many years ago.
Don Warnaar
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:08 AM
Subject:
Re: [Chrysler300] 300G at Russo Steele
The
Russo-Steele site shows the VIN for the car is 8413 159853. That
was Billy Korbel's "Lady G" which took all kinds of prizes at the Lake
George meet in 2011. Billy died shortly after the meet.
His sister said she had never seen him any happier than he was that
night. Everyone at the meet was pretty pleased about it
too.
Billy joined
the club in 1985. I think he bought the G shortly thereafter and had
it fitted with hand controls. Somewhere there's a photograph of
Billy, in his wheelchair, with his feather duster tending to his "Lady
G."
I hope the next
owner cares for it as much as he did.
300ly,
Gloria
Moon