I would venture to say that even the wrench might not be needed. After all, modules usually just get plugged in and then snap into place. Why would you need a wrench? Pete Fitch In a message dated 5/6/2013 2:57:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, torquechap@xxxxxxxxx writes: Rich, It'll be a different kind of restoration and modification. I have a GMC Typhoon which was one of the first American turbocharged cars to be modified a la laptop computer. (Early tuners were driving blind, so to say, and were blowing up Typhoon engines left and right until they learned key parameters. My car was fortunately spared.) Tomorrow's restorers will have a wrench in one hand and a laptop in the other. David Morrison New Jersey ________________________________ From: Rich Barber <_c300@xxxxxxxx (mailto:c300@xxxxxxx) > To: 'Ryan Hill' <_ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx) >; 'Bob Jasinski' <_rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx) > Cc: 'Listsaver 300 Club' <_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:52 PM Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Re: 300 Navigation Disc Can you imagine what this Listserver will look like fifty years from now? Now is the time to start stashing away parts for current 300’s so your kids can make a mint on your treasure trove. Good luck with them being able to work on the current models. Rich Barber Brentwood, CA From: _Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) [mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) ] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 12:06 AM To: Bob Jasinski Cc: Listsaver 300 Club Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Re: 300 Navigation Disc I wasn't pleased that the Garmin let me down in downtown Frisco but I've had years of service from a $130 unit that only requires me to plug it into my computer and click update to get the latest version. My wife's 2004 BMW has a navigation system that was state of the art technology in it's day; unfortunately it feels like clunky old technology now and doesn't give us many of the features we enjoy with the Garmin. For example, hospitals, gas stations, restaurants, shopping etc. are not available with the built in unit. I'm sure the newer cars with nav have these features but what will come along in the next wave of technology that you'll be missing, unless you replace your car every few years? The big bonus for me is that my Garmin fits nicely in the console of my 300, nice and safe, right where my maps used to be kept when I want to take it with me in another car. Kinda hard to access your navigation system in your daily driver while taking a trip in your classic. Cheers Sent from my iPhone On 2013-05-05, at 6:07 PM, "Bob Jasinski" <_rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:rpjasin%40comcast.net> > wrote: > That's very strange, because my Chrysler factory navigation works fine in San Francisco. When I need an update disc I get them from eBay sellers, the 2012 disc I bought last summer was $35. Yes, it was a copy, but it had the hack done to it that allows you to use it on the go. Actually I have a separate unit (like the Garmin) I use with my Dakota pickup. > > I love the big screen on my factory navigation, and how it is integrated with the radio and Uconnect. i wouldn't be without it, you can have the stand-alone units, I don't like having to deal with trying to stick it someplace and trying to hide it every time I park it so it won't get stolen. The factory unit also plays through the stereo, and I can adjust the volume to any level I need so it is easy to hear, even when I am on the phone, like I say, its integrated to all work together. > > By the way, the same disc works in our 2005 Town & Country van that has factory Navigation and Uconnect. The van unit is an RB1, and the 300C is a REC, the same disc was used by both so I copied the disc and got a two for one deal, can't beat that. > > Bob J > > From: Ryan Hill [mailto:_ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:ryan_hillc300%40hotmail.com> ] > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 3:33 PM > To: Bob Jasinski > Cc: David Schwandt; Ray Jones; peter fitch; Ron Waters; Listsaver 300 Club > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Re: 300 Navigation Disc > > I like my Garmin, much better than the factory GPS in our BMW's, but it proved useless in downtown San Fran with all the interference of tall buildings. (Kept losing the satellite signal which confused the unit) Wished then that I had a map as backup! > > The way I see it, I'd rather not pay for a factory unit that will be obsolete in a couple years and cost thousands to buy and update. The cheapest GPS units at Costco are superior to anything you'll get from the factory and you can take them with you on vacation or plug them into your classic car if need be. If it gets stolen because you left it in plain sight in your car, buy another one. > > Hope you're all enjoying your weekend. > > Ryan Hill > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-05-05, at 3:10 PM, "Bob Jasinski" <_rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:rpjasin%40comcast.net> > wrote: > > Good luck with that in the middle of San Francisco or LA! > > Bob J > > From: _Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of David Schwandt > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:13 PM > To: 'Ray Jones'; 'peter fitch' > Cc: 'Ron Waters'; 'Listsaver 300 Club' > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Re: 300 Navigation Disc > > $9.95 for a new Rand McNally atlas at WalMart. > I can read a map and plan a trip! > Have managed over 4,000,000 miles w/o it! > Got all this fancy stuff on Carolyns '08 Hemi C and also my '11 Laramie > Longhorn > Never used any of it. Can't read the screen in the daylight anyway. > > Dave Schwandt > > -----Original Message----- > From: _Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On > Behalf Of Ray Jones > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 9:17 AM > To: peter fitch > Cc: Ron Waters; Listsaver 300 Club > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Re: 300 Navigation Disc > > Seems a little silly to me. Rarely looked at, usually you follow the voice > prompts. > My unit mounts on the windshield, but I have it low down near the dash. > From my point of view, it covers mostly the wipers and little bit of the > hood I can see. > The little bit of road area it would cover, is so close to the car as to be > of no matter. > The main reason it's on the windshield is to expose the antenna more and to > amplify it's speaker. > It's rarely mounted, just used on trips. > > See you ALL at the Spring Meet... > Ray > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:28 AM, <_pffkllc@xxxxxxxx (mailto:pffkllc@xxxxxxx) <mailto:pffkllc%40aol.com> <mailto:pffkllc%40aol.com> <mailto:pffkllc%40aol.com> > > wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Forcing you to put the GPS unit below the dash also forces you to take > > your eyes completely off the road when you look at it - not the best > > thing if you ask me. If obstruction of view is the concern, I would > > suggest that a Garmin unit takes up little more room of your view than > > an EZ Pass unit and at least when you are looking at it, your eyes can > > still be seeing the road in front of you. > > > > Has anyone actually checked the NYS motor vehicle laws to confirm that > > mounting the unit anywhere on the windshield is a violation????? > > > > Pete Fitch > > > > In a message dated 5/4/2013 3:39:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > _ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:ronbo97%40comcast.net> <mailto:ronbo97%40comcast.net> <mailto:ronbo97%40comcast.net> writes: > > > > I agree with the NYS 'above the dash' law. I would find it very > > distracting > > > > to have a brightly colored screen in my line of vision. Wish CT would > > adopt same. > > > > I keep mine on a little shelf below the radio of my daily driver. Not > > visible from outside the car and I can stick it in my pocket when I > > leave the car on the street or in a parking lot. As long as I can hear > > it, I'm good to go. > > > > Ron > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jamie Hyde" <__jamie.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:_jamie.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:_jamie.hyde%40optimation.us> <mailto:_jamie.hyde%40optimation.us> > <mailto:_jamie.hyde%40optimation.us> _ > > (mailto:_jamie.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:jamie.hyde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:jamie.hyde%40optimation.us> <mailto:jamie.hyde%40optimation.us> <mailto:jamie.hyde%40optimation.us> ) > > > To: <__Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:_Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:_Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:_Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > _ > > (mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > ) > > > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 3:26 PM > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: 300 Navigation Disc > > > > > In NYS we have a hands free law that states you cannot be holding > > > any electronic device with your hand, GPS, Cell Phone, Ipod, ect. > > > The road block that was set up next to my office, nabbed my office > > > mate for > > having > > > his GPS unit affixed to the windshield. The trooper who wrote his > > citation > > > told him that NYS law states that no device can be mounted above the > > > dashboard plane (I assume back to the old radar detector days) . > > > Half > > the > > > cars on the I90 thruway would be in violation if they elected to > > > enforce it. It must have been a slow day as they usually do a brisk > > > business on writing up drivers for inspection stickers out of date. > > > A portable GPS would also not be covered by insurance if someone > > > were to break into > > your > > > car to remove it. After my office worker got nailed it was one of > > > the reasons I installed a used factory RB1 head unit into my 300M > > > special, > > the > > > one I installed has built in blue tooth as well. I checked with my > > carrier > > > and she stated that the unit would be covered if someone damaged the > > > car and took it, I also installed one in my wife's jeep although her > > > unit > > does > > > not have the Bluetooth feature. I agree that in your letter car it > > > would handy to have, and easy to remove when parked, just watch out > > > in NY. See some of you soon in St Louis. > > > > > > Jamie Hyde > > > 585-321-2721 Office > > > 585-465-0067 Cell > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > > > __Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:_Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:_Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:_Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> _ > (mailto:_Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ) > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to __bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:_bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:_bob%40simplexco.com> <mailto:_bob%40simplexco.com> > <mailto:_bob%40simplexco.com> _ > > (mailto:_bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) <mailto:bob%40simplexco.com> <mailto:bob%40simplexco.com> <mailto:bob%40simplexco.com> ) or > > > > > go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and > > > select > > the > > > "Leave Group" button > > > > > > For list server instructions, go to > > > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > > > > > For archives go to > > > http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! > > Groups > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > *Ray Jones. 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