Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni

[Bill Huff <czbill@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I'd go for for 2 sets if they will fit my 58 DeSoto as well.

Bill Huff

At 7/22/201110:19 AM, Michael Moore wrote:
>I restored a 63 E Type which had Koni shocks. I 
>had them rebuilt by Koni. The car handles great.
>I restored a 64 E Type (virtually identical) 
>.  I had put some expensive, but highly 
>recommended shocks on the 64. I had both cars at 
>the same time, The one with Konis handled and 
>rode so much better, I replaced the "custom" 
>shocks with Konis. It made a terrific difference.
>Mike Moore
>300H
>On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:02 AM, John wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>To continue forward with this discussion about 
>>shock absorbers at the 300 Club
>>listserver:
>>
>>Koni once made front and rear shocks to fit our cars.
>>
>>I recall having read a thread on the Imperial 
>>Club's website. I found it, and
>>here it is, complete with misspellings:
>>
>>Tip from Philippe:
>>Just a little story about shock absorbers, I 
>>think that it could help you and
>>the Imperial owners. Last year I bought a 57 wrecked Crown (no glasses, rust
>>everywhere, transmission « out »). This car was neglected since 1966 so all
>>the parts on it were never replaced with 
>>aftermarket parts ! Except one thing
>>: the shock absorbers! Maybe the original « Oriflow » weren't as strong as
>>Chrysler said! I was very surprised when I 
>>removed the shocks : they aren't «
>>made in Brazil or Mexico » as actual sold by K....R or B......M. There are
>>KONI shocks, a very reliable & famous make 
>>(more expensive also). But I don't
>>know if Koni make them always. Summit has Koni shocks on his catalog. I give
>>you the reference (as they are the same from 57 to 65) : Front : 80 C 1229
>>Rear : 82 1066 Date of manufacturing : 11/64 If 
>>they are always manufactured,
>>buy them and don't buy $80.00 for four : I bought 4 gaz charged absorbers
>>(from kanter) : after one year, one was leaking and one was jamed ! Mexico
>>made ...
>> >>Follow-up from Dietmar:
>> >>>You are right- KONI is the worlds best 
>> qualitiy shock absorbers for street and
>> >>>race cars. They will serve You a 100 000 
>> miles without any complain. I use
>> >>>them on my IMP 60 so this havy car dont 
>> swim nor incline in the curve, I use
>> >>>KONI an all sports car I have.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>---
>> >>>
>>
>>So I sent an email to Koni North America, 
>>inquiring about the above mentioned
>>part numbers. Here is the reply:
>>
>>From: "Mclaughlin, Paul - ITT Motion 
>>Technologies" <<mailto:Paul.Mclaughlin%40itt.com>Paul.Mclaughlin@xxxxxxx>
>>To: 
>>"<mailto:spiers%40rocketmail.com>spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
>><<mailto:spiers%40rocketmail.com>spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>Haven't had those part#'s for years... I think 
>>u have to buy 50 cars sets each
>>to get run made in Holland.
>>
>>Paul McLaughlin
>>Koni Shock Absorbers
>>ITT Corporation
>>Racing Technical Sales Rep.
>>1961A International Way
>>Hebron, Ky. 41048
>>800-922-2616 option 6
>>
>>---
>>
>>I checked on prices of Koni shocks. They are much more than the KYBs - for
>>example, on Koni's website, a pair of front 
>>shocks for a 1970 Dodge Challenger
>>lists for $320/pair (online price, $240) and 
>>the rear pair list for $380 (online
>>price, $285). And they do go for upwards of $500/pair in some cases.
>>
>>To make the minimum order, I think it would be 
>>difficult to convince a total of
>>50 people worldwide, between both 300 clubs, 
>>the Imperial Club, both Christine
>>clubs, and all the members of the Forwardlook list, to drop $600 on a set of
>>Koni shocks, when there are discussions of the 
>>KYBs being far too expensive at
>>over $100/set . . . and I wouldn't drive 
>>another one of these cars without at
>>least KYBs on it. The difference, to you who don't know, is like AM radio
>>versus satellite radio.
>>
>>I personally would buy at least 2 sets of the Konis, after experiencing the
>>profound difference of KYBs, and knowing the Konis are another quantum leap
>>forward - I've only run them 65,000 miles on 
>>one car I've owned (a '62 Morgan
>>+4) and was very impressed. One important and 
>>interesting feature of the Konis,
>>is that they are adjustable for firmness/softness in their rebound action.
>><http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm>http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>John Spiers
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: Bill Huff <<mailto:czbill%40cfl.rr.com>czbill@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: Michael Moore 
>><<mailto:mmoore8425%40aol.com>mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>; 
>>Tony Bevacqua <<mailto:tonysru2%40comcast.net>tonysru2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Cc: Marshall Larson 
>><<mailto:granitledge%40gmail.com>granitledge@xxxxxxxxx>; 
>><mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 9:27:35 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks.
>>
>>There are some H.D. choices out there. Not many cheap one though.
>>
>><http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001>http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001
>>
>>Bill Huff
>>
>>At 7/21/201111:58 AM, Michael Moore wrote:
>> >I installed those on my 300H and was grateful to get them.
>> >I wish they were stiffer though.
>> >Its almost as though there are no shocks on the car, but insofar as
>> >I know, that's all thats available.I wish Koni made a set to fit.
>> >Mike Moore
>> >300H
>> >
>> >
>> >On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Tony Bevacqua wrote:
>> >
>> > > KYB shocks. KG4507 and KG 5511 are the correct ones. I just made a
>> > > purchase for my 57 (shocks are correct for 1957 to 1964, I believe).
>> > > $116.32 for the 4 shocks, plus handling, etc.
>> > > Tony
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: 
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > > Behalf Of Marshall Larson
>> > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:26 AM
>> > > To: <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Shocks.
>> > >
>> > > Any suggestions for an appropriate brand and model of shocks for a G. I
>> > > don't need anything exotic, just proper 
>> ride and to deal with the radials
>> > > that are on the car. All suggestions appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > MN Marshall
>> > >
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