Re: [Chrysler300] Mystery Part? X5

[Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi John & All,

John Nowosacki may have come closer than anyone yet in identifying the blue
header mystery parts. He suggests below that the rare 1962=H had blue short
crossrams. Could these be a set of matching blue cast iron headers?

Does anyone know if the 1962 short rams were exhaust or water heated?

Here is a quote from the web:

³There was a short ram version of the long rams. Externally these looked
pretty much the same as the long rams, but a few inches of the internal
divider wall was cut away. The short rams were tuned for high rpm and were
rated at 400 horsepower in 1960 and 1961. 1962 versions were rated at 405
horsepower. Hot Rod Magazine got a 405 horse 62 300H, tuned it a bit, added
headers, and installed 4.56 gears. Ran high 12's at almost 108. This is with
street tires. They took it to the 1962 Winternationals and were runner-up in
the Super Stock Automatic class. This was just a few months before the 413
Max Wedge was created and offered in B body 62 Dodges and Plymouths. If
you're interested in the 405 horse 300H, you can read about it in the June
1962 issue of Hot Rod; probably can get one off eBay.²

Thanks,
Tony


From: John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:03:38 -0500
To: Anthony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Mystery Part? X5

I have seen one 405hp 62 300H, and the crossrams on top were blue, not red,
but I don't recall looking at the headers.  Might these be headers for that
application?  I don't think the H had water heated carbs.


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   
> Hi Don, Carl, Gil & All,
> 
> Carl Bilter has provided us with some pertinent diagrams from the article
> referenced by Don.
> 
> ³The excellent article about exhaust systems by Dale Burkhardt appeared in
> Vol. X Number II & III of the Club News (Winter 1984 and Spring 1984). The
> article included numerous illustrations as well, including the F special
> headers, which are different than the J/K as Don noted. The F special
> headers are also noted to be the same as the rare dealer or field installed
> 62 super stock packages.² (By Carl)
> 
> I have updated the web site with these pictures and an enlargement of a
> factory looking exhaust port cap in the mystery blue header.
> 
> http://gallery.me.com/awrdoc#100118&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=0
> 
> Anyone know what the mystery blue headers might be for?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tony
> 
> From: Don Verity <d.verity@xxxxxxx <mailto:d.verity%40cox.net> >
> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:49:43 -0500
> To: Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> >, Anthony Rinaldi
> <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:awrdoc%40yahoo.com> >
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Mystery Part? X3
> 
> NO, NO, NO.
> F special exhaust headers did not have provisions for exhaust heat from the
> headers. They used hot water to heat the area under the carbs. I have
> pictures to support this.
> Gil, do you remember which old club news had the article about exhaust
> manifolds? I know I have it, but don't remember what issue. I think there
> were pictures there too.
> Don Verity
> 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > 
>> > From: Tony Rinaldi <mailto:awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:awrdoc%40yahoo.com> >
>> > 
>> > To: Chrysler 300 Club <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> >
>> > 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:21 PM
>> > 
>> > Subject: FW: [Chrysler300] Mystery Part? X3
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hi To All,
>> > 
>> > It has been suggested that the Mystery Parts May Be:
>> > 
>> > Headers from a 1960 Chrysler 300-F Special 400 HP 4-speed?
>> > They had headers, a larger exhaust and low resistance mufflers.
>> > 
>> > Anyone have any thoughts to substantiate this (for or against)?
>> > 
>> > http://gallery.me.com/awrdoc#100118&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=0
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tony
>> > 
>> > Hi Again,
>> > 
>> > For the benefit of those that think the blue header mystery part is the
>> same
>> > as the tan J/K header, I have traced the runners of the blue part and
>> > superimposed them on the tan J/K header. Even though the perspective is
>> > different on both parts, it is clear that the curvatures of the runners on
>> > the blue header is different especially the #1 cylinder (leftmost runner).
>> > 
>> > What vehicle, engine and year(s) were these BLUE headers from???
>> > 
>> > http://gallery.me.com/awrdoc#100118&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=0
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tony
>> > 
>> > Hi To All,
>> > 
>> > Please go to the following link:
>> > 
>> > http://gallery.me.com/awrdoc#100118&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=0
>> > 
>> > Click on thumbnail to enlarge. If you wish, you can download the
>> > photo by clicking on the download icon.
>> > 
>> > The picture was taken at a Mopar Nationals swap meet in 2008.
>> > 
>> > There are 2 sets of long rams and a set of exhaust headers painted BLUE. I
>> > superimposed one side of a set of J/K headers with a tan color to compare
>> to
>> > the mystery BLUE set of headers. The curvatures do not match.
>> > 
>> > What vehicle, engine and year were these BLUE headers from???
>> > 
>> > Please Reply All with your answers. Enjoy.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > Tony Rinaldi
>> > 
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>> > 
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>> > 
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