Fw: [Chrysler300] Russo Steel auction carnage pics & 300B at 1956 Daytona

["Burton Bouwkamp" <northburt@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Burt 

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From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Russo Steel auction carnage pics & 300B at 1956 Daytona


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> The pictures of the cars on the link posted below after the tent failures would be any car owners/300s worst nightmare - some real nice cars are really badly damaged - the Cuda convert near flattened, '68 Shelby roof crushed down, Panteras, winged superbird, etc.
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> And what is the value of such cars after real near big possiblle stuctural damage, never mind how long will it take to find repairers capable off doing such work, the time sourcing panels trim etc if wanting it to be genuine, not repo aftermarket?  Sellers wanting cash out of their cars - yet maybe 4-6 months before repaired, let alone who wants it then - can/will they maybe be paid out as option, Insurance Co then has hassle of selling restored car, or just as is? Do US Policies commonly allow this if your Collector Car is somewhat badly damaged?
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> Thank you to those who replied re the Auction tents still being the big huge posted ones used years ago when the auctions were not as massive as today - the flimsy ones I saw post storm must be emergency temporary ones. And so it seems failure this time is maybe largely responsible to rope stakes, tie downs pulling out of wet ground. If so maybe the answer is what is often used here - large cast concrete blocks with steel tiedown loops cast into them - I do not know what they weigh, but usually they are about 3 feet square - maybe heavier than any ropes strength.
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> In I think 1933, fire tore through huge tent at I think Chigago World Fair, or some major other Car Expo, and a huge number of special custom body, most iconic classics, were totally lost - others in US will know better detail , many cars the absolute best, re one off custom bodies, paint trim, world's best custom Coachbuilders, the absolute cream Marques. Whilst few of the cars at R&S are of this calibre, this double tent failure, however must rate as one of collerctorcardoms biggest 'one hit' damage events after the 1933 one?!
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> And a quick final thought re why/how maybe one 1956 300B was faster than all others - one hour refusal/delaying before fronting the car for inspection, if not enough time to change a whole engine, however would it maybe be enough time to change cylinder heads and exhaust?!  Burt in his excellent replies might be able to offer comment re at early Daytona Inspections, was the cam always checked to see if stock, so if the cam were a more radical grind, combined with higher comp heads with higher rev stronger valve springs, and a 'cheater' more open flow exhaust, might explain how one would get the needed extra 100hp? 

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Chris might have the answer. In 1956, NASCAR did not inspect the camshaft after the beach speed events. They did not have the equipment to do that at the Armory - and I'm not sure they even knew how to do it. We did provide carburetor and port sizes, bore, stroke, valve sizes, piston head height and cylinder head combustion chamber volume specifications to NASCAR before the trials for their use in the inspection of the fastest cars. 

Carl Kiekhefer had raced 300's in the NASCAR and AAA circuits in 1955 so he had the experience to know what cam profile and timing to get more power. (In oval racing in 1955, NASCAR did not care what canshaft you used.)  In summary, Carl had the "smarts" and the opportunity to change the camshaft.

Burt
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An ex SK Class US Boat Racer said that by doing basically this, with better flow carbs, a 375bhp 1957 300C hemi's horsepower went up to 550bhp at about 7,200 rpms.
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> filled a wheel chair bound US car collector friend over road's souped up '71 460 Lincoln coupe for him yesterday - premium gas here now at $7.70 a gal (an aussie gallon is 4 and half litres)  - ouch!!
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> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:33:06 +0000
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Fwd: [chicago-mustang] Russo Steel auction carnage pics
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> I just returned from the Phx auctions also. Here's a link below from a vintage Mustang Club I belong to - many pictures of the Russo and Steele damaged autos - no pics in this batch, however, of any 300s. In speaking with some folks yesterday, I heard that Larry Tarantolo's F Special sustained no damage, but can't confirm, and I didn't have the heart to email him. I also heard that the Tucker convertible, restored by one of my partners and his son, did sustain some damage. It was great seeing several 300 Club members down there this weekend. 
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> Noel Hastalis 
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> Burr Ridge, IL 
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> some thing we were talking about at Darrel's 
> really sad to see that much damage 
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> http://www.fototime.com/inv/0D32321D1D5460A 
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