Hi Keith, and all, The whereabouts and history of this car have been know its entire life. Mike Burke, George Riehl, and I were there when Gregg Ziegler signed the affidavit, as well as signed the car itself on the ram manifold and the glovebox door. I have photos of him doing it. Also, though no one had actually seen it for a while it has 11K miles and it's not restored; it's the second best original condition tailfin-era Chrysler I've ever seen. Point being, it didn't resurface as a refinished car someone might have built up. Don't think there are any mysteries here. Andy Mikonis in snowy Chicago --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Keith Boonstra <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Keith Boonstra <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1960 300F Special 400 HP To: "Richard Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx> Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 3:12 PM At the figure this one is likely to fetch after all the promotion, I would think the buyer ought to have perfect assurance that this very car is one Gregg Ziegler drove for that momentous record.. What if this one crosses the block at some huge number, and it later turns out to be identical to, but not the actual, black 300F that set the record shattering mile at 144.927. I don't see on this website the actual provenance - the chain of ownership demonstrating this is the very one. I'm not saying I have any reason to distrust or doubt it, but it really needs to be ascertained lest a new owner find himself sadly surprised. One detail in this regard that caught my eye on the Russo & Steele site was the the affidavit said to be signed by Gregg Ziegler. Why does it bear the signature date of 11/9/08 when the printout of the affidavit is 10/02/08 (and even over-printed on 9/17/08)/ A skeptic might wonder if perhaps the current owner may have sent the filled out form to Mr. Ziegler on 10/02/08, and that Mr. Ziegler then signed and returned it a month or so later to the current owner without actually knowing whether this was the serial number of the car he drove. Was it perhaps a different black 300F Special - one of the other eight that were built? Did this one actually make the trip to Daytona? Was it one that ran there but didn't win? Everything's probably just fine here, but I'd rather be careful ahead than sorry later. Burt or Gil, is the provenance of 300F #8403110398 known for certain? Keith Boonstra Holland MI Richard Barber wrote: > > > Interesting story accompanying a special F going to auction later this > month: http://tinyurl. com/ydpjdh2 <http://tinyurl. com/ydpjdh2> > > Rich Barber > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/