Just got new NAPA hoses for the F a couple of weeks ago, and no spring in the lower one. Dave Schwandt ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mc Adams" <clafong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Water Temp and engine bay heat issues > To all: > > > > Regarding all engine high temperature problems, I have not yet noticed any > mention of the lower radiator hose. I have heard over the years that > particularly if your water pump is a high output model, sometimes at > higher > rpm's the lower hose (that returns the radiator water to the engine - also > called the suction hose) can collapse, obviously causing a major > restriction > in water flow. That is why in the past, some water hoses used to have > coil > springs inside to prevent or at least reduce the possibility of this > happening. This phenomenon is basically impossible to detect while > driving > down the highway. > > > > Now I am not saying that this is happening on current hoses, and certainly > not at lower rpm's like stuck in traffic etc. but if you are having heat > problems at freeway speeds, install one of those coiled springs in the > lower > hose. It just might help. The guy at the parts house just stares blankly > at me when I ask for one of these but he gladly let me look through all of > his hoses until I found one that fit. > > > > Also, if you are having overheating problems, or maybe just "think" you > are > having overheating problems. How accurate is your temp gauge on the dash > and the sensor that runs it? What does it mean when the needle is > pointing > before, at, or past the "P"? Do you keep on going up that long hill until > the engine starts to ping like mad, or make worse noises? I carry one of > those infrared heat detectors that you point and shoot in the glove box, > right next to the tire pressure gauge. When the temperature gauge on the > dash indicates a possible problem, I just pull over, quickly raise the > hood > and point the IR detector at various parts of the engine compartment and > the > upper and lower parts of the radiator (watch out for that moving fan and > belts) to get a better idea of what is really going on under there. > > > > Lastly, have your radiator cap pressure tested or just buy a new one. > Check > the fan belts for proper tension and condition. If you suspect the > thermostat is not working properly, take it out and drop it into a pot of > water. Gradually increase the temp of the water while measuring the water > temp to see if it opens at about the proper temperature and that it opens > fully. Don't forget to use a fresh gasket when re-installing the > thermostat. And if you have A/C (at least on my '62 300) have fun > re-installing the A/C compressor that is in the way of that second bolt on > the thermostat housing. That is one of my biggest complaints of a stupid > design by Mopar. Every time I take off the A/C compressor and/or > thermostat > housing I also replace the temperature sensor which is also conveniently > hidden underneath that A/C compressor. > > > > > > Big John Mc Adams > > (In SoCal) > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.12680 > http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > For list server instructions, go to > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups > Links > > > > ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/