Owen, I'm in agreement completely with what you've said. I happen to be a fan of the earlier cars and have always felt the build quality was the best Chrysler ever did. When the Letter Cars came to be they were simply a refinement of all of the previous works that Chrysler had done. Had Chrysler not done all of this our Letter Cars may have never come into existance. One must remember that most everything done in the automotive world is simply refined from a much earlier version. Did you know that Chevrolet had an overhead valve engine way back in the teens? Well, they did, so here is just another example that nothing is new. John Lazenby, Southern California 1955 Chrysler New Yorker Deluxe Town & Country 1955 Imperial Newport 1955 Chrysler C300 Tango Red 1956 Chrysler 300B Cloud White 1957 Chrysler 300C Coupe Raven Black 1960 Chrysler 300F Coupe Alaskan White 1963 Volkswagen Beetle Black 2000 BMW 323ci Titanium Silver Metallic w/Red Leather 2001 BMW ///M5 Titanium Silver Metallic (A Modern Super Car) http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=18 2002 Mercury Mountaineer Premier (V8) ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen Grigg To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:28 PM Subject: FW: [Chrysler300] Could this be Adam II? The real performance years were pre-Lettercar -----Original Message----- From: Owen Grigg [mailto:ram300@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:54 p.m. To: 'Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: FW: [Chrysler300] Could this be Adam II? The real performance years were pre-Lettercar -----Original Message----- From: Owen Grigg [mailto:ram300@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 12:52 p.m. To: 'Rich Barber'; 'John Mc Adams'; 'Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; 'Wayne Graefen' Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Could this be Adam II? The real performance years were pre-Lettercar I'm not sure too many Letter car guys, including myself would want to hear this. But when I look at the facts nearly ALL Chrysler performance testing and factory fitment of dual quad intakes, the hemi engine, solid roller camshafts, high flow air filters and exhausts, disc brakes, HD Imperial suspension, vented wheels, HD Powerflight trans were ALL about WELL before the 300 came into production. The only major things I can think of that the Lettercar brought to the performance table were an improvement in body style/aerodynamics/cosmetics, torsion bars in'57,the TF trans in late '56 and later on ram-induction. Other than that it was all done pre- '55. When you look at it like this, a heck of a lot was achieved from'51 thru '54 and in '55 thru '61....well not a lot of NEW performance ideas came about really. I suppose the main thing they achieved with the Lettercar was to make that performance more accessible to the public. Sorry to burst the bubble on the Lettercar being 1st in performance. Fires screen up, let me have it. Owen Thanks for pointing it out. The racing success of early hemis certainly gave birth to the idea creation of the 1955 C-300 and subsequent letter cars. And the C-300 begat the 300B, and the 300B begat the 300C, etc. C-300'ly, Rich Barber Brentwood, CA -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Mc Adams Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:38 PM To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Wayne Graefen' Subject: [Chrysler300] Could this be Adam II? Or Son of Adam? 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