i took the cue and looked them up. they have a complete line of POR15 similar stuff and a lot cheaper. i email them sunday to ask a question about getting a gallon of rust remover as only a 20oz spray bottle was listed. about two hours later, i got an email from bill hirsch the owner. keep in mind this is sunday afternoon. not only had a gallon but had it in gel form so it wouldnt run off. So i called monday morning, bill hirsch answered the phone. He is 80 years old and gets in to work at 5:15AM. he was involved somehow in the startup of POR15 and says the ownership is in the hands of people of dubious character. anyway i got a 20 minutes course in humidity setting urethane and i dont know what all. ended up ordering a gallon of rust remover gel and a gallon of blue engine enamel to seal and coat a rusting galvanized building i have. no doubt in my mind the man has good stuff. www.HIRSCHAUTO.COM and the phone is 800-828-2061. pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Waters To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] Bill Hirsh Miracle Paint Hi All - I found a can of 'Bill Hirsh Miracle Paint' on the shelf while doing some spring cleaning. Has anyone used this stuff ? Is is just repackaged POR-15 ? I know he's been selling this stuff for years, but no one has ever said anything positive or negative about it. Ron -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 574 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/