RE: [Chrysler300] 300D Fuel Pump issues!!

["Marianne" <marianne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks George,

 

Can you e-mail me a pic of it. I can advise if it will work or if it
might be another problem waiting to happen.

 

Sean

 

 

 

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From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of georgelaurie@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, 22 March 2008 12:37 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300D Fuel Pump issues!!

 

Well it always pays to check with your Local Mopar parts supplyer, I
think I have a new Hemi Pump with Bowl in stock, I know I have a
re-built waterpump complete with housing, you just never know what I
have around the place here in Qld unless you check, I am not just the
guy who makes all the Mopar Lenses and Emblems, George.
georgelaurie@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:georgelaurie%40bigpond.com>  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Marianne 
To: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john_nowosacki%40agilent.com>  ;
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  
Cc: Sean Morgan 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300D Fuel Pump issues!!

Hi John,

Good advise that's works if you have an original pump. Or access to
original parts. If you don't, what next? Living half way around the
world in OZ, you can't even find an old second hand Hemi pump from a
junk yard for a rebuild. So we become more reliant upon the bigger
restoration suppliers like Kanters who ship OS. The real problem is, on
the surface, this all seems no problem, the fact that Kanters state they
have a new replacement pump with a bowl for a '58 392, and they are
happy to sell it to me as such, Sadly it is very close, but
unfortunately from experience it has proven to be a disastrous
combination that when fitted has potentially damaged my fresh and
expensive engine. Firstly, I would hope to spare any other members from
this experience. 

Secondly, I should simply ask the list, who (what supplier) can reliably
supply me with a rebuilt original pump with bowl, without me furnishing
a core for rebuilding?

I am sure somebody has some recent experience and knows these answers.

Sean in OZ 

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Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:04 PM
To: Marianne; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Cc: Sean Morgan
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300 D AC finshing touches!......& Fuel Pump
issues!!

As a general rule, whether a fuel pump, water pump, generator,
alternator, etc, I try to rebuild or have someone else rebuild my
original unit, then I know it is the right one for the application,
having been on the car for a number of decades already.

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From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Marianne
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:01 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
Cc: Sean Morgan
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300 D AC finshing touches!......& Fuel Pump
issues!!

Hello out there in 300 land!

Had the D completed for an important Chrysler event down under last
weekend! All was well, fully detailed, with 150 miles on the clock and
not an issue, Then.......Failed fuel pump and unfortunately then the
eccentric, on the way to the event!!

I sourced the pump from Kanters, after providing details & year of the
car, and they furnished what I believed to be an original style & fit
pump with the '58 fuel bowl underside. It went in easy, probably on the
low side of the eccentric in retrospect, but pumped like a champion
without any noise or issue for at least 150 miles. I figured it was
perfect! The horrible reality was that I think it was bottoming out in
the block pump arm cavity slightly, but this was loading up the
eccentric on the high side, until ultimately the pump arm had a radius
1/8" deep worn into it, and a similar groove in the eccentric, until the
eccentric failed and cut loose inside!

The wear was very uniform, and the pump was engaging the eccentric
squarely, even a professional mechanic didn't question its
function........until now!!

Rather tragic when you have a fully restored car stranded in the middle
of no mans land! I am sure many can relate to this however.

Has any body had any similar experiences with Kanter sourced pumps? Any
ideas on the correct and best original style pump to obtain?

I would hope this might act as a warning to other unsuspecting victims
of these pumps, which look the part, but aren't!

Also, would any body have source or ideas for rebuilt AC heater taps,
along for the oil control solenoid that controls the damper? Both mine
are leaking respectively.

I am also chasing the little fill in piece in the middle of the lower
inside window garnish, the matt black one on top of the dash for a '58.
kind of where the '57 mirror mount goes.

Regards

Sean in OZ

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