RE: [Chrysler300] WARNING---Asbestos in A/C units.

["Marianne" <marianne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Gary,

 

Thanks for your response on the AC units. As many know, Asbestos was a
popular heat resistant and insulation material used for many years. It
does a fantastic job as well, except for the fact that it slowly kills
you if you inhale the fibers!

 

Unfortunately, many have fallen victim to this fact, particularly many
Navy seamen over the years. Dangerous stuff that was widely used
everywhere, particularly in ships!

 

My car was not original AC, however I have gone to great lengths to keep
the AC setup factory. The AC system I obtained I believe was out of a
'58 Imperial. Luckily, no asbestos appeared to be present in any of the
AC '58 components I obtained.

 

The only sealing material on the AC assembly was the "Blue Tac" type
putty which almost holds these Chryslers together from this period! This
"Blue Tac" I am sure is the same stuff that kids put their posters up
with on their bedroom walls. I am sure when Chrysler stopped buying this
stuff, the "Blue Tac" company probably brainstormed in vain for what
other applications they could sell it, until they discovered what their
kids were doing with it! Probably ended up like the "Post It notes" and
"Liquid paper" success story!!

 

I purchased about 6lbs of "Blue Tac" in bulk from the local Stationers
for my resto. It appears to be the exactly the same stuff.

 

Gary any photo's of the switch repair e-mailed would be great. If you
have any info as well of the heater control valves that would be good
also.

 

Any fuel pump clues would be good also.

 

 

Regards

 

 

Sean

      

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Gary Nelson
Sent: Saturday, 22 March 2008 8:02 AM
To: Marianne; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Sean Morgan
Subject: [Chrysler300] WARNING---Asbestos in A/C units.

 

Hi All

A quick note to Sean then about ASBESTOS WARNING.

Sean, your oil solenoid valve can be rebuilt. I have done some and not
to
difficult. I have photos of rebuild process if you want. Just contact me
direct.

ASBESTOS WARNING: I am restoring a 57 Imperial convert and in the
process I
will install factory A/C. I need to compare the housing that is part of
the
fire wall with an A/C car. I bought a second 300C last year. It is a
factory
air car. Fortunately restoration had been started when I got the car.
The
motor was out and the fiber glass housing had been removed and in the
trunk.
(I am getting to the point). It was easy to stand in the in the engine
bay
so I started to remove the plenum that holds the heat and evaporator
coils.
I removed the the four corner screws and started to pull it off the fire
wall. It was springy and moved out some and go back. After a few more
pulls
I realized the fresh air grill on the cowl was removed and I could look
inside to see what was holding it in. I saw that some type of insulation
was
packed around the ends of the evaporator coils that loop back and forth.
When I pulled out the first chunk I realized it was asbestos. Light gray
fibrous material. I got a breathing mask and gloves on and proceeded to
remove what seems to be pound as it filled a large zip bag. Needless to
say
this is a very dangerous situation. The fresh air intake constantly
swirls
around the asbestos and into the cars interior. The person that drove
this
car may have suffered lung disease.
There is more to this story. I have several of the A/C units that are
out of
the cars. I remembered I had one that the tubes on the ends where packed
solid with a putty like you find in several places the factory used to
seal
areas on these cars. Then I had one with no insulation.
Then I have one that has asbestos sheets are bonded to the flat surfaces
of
the sheet metal plenum box. Again the fresh air would circulate right
over
the asbestos and into the car.
Needles to say anyone with an A/C car should remove the fresh air grill
and
look inside. It is then easy to see the sides of the plenum and sheet
metal
surfaces. The factory varied as usual when the A/C was installed. I have
no
idea how many years could be effected. Again this car is a 57 300C built
February 27, 1957.
I hope I have not overdone my wordy explanation.

Thank you,
Gary, the parts doc
Reno, Nevada 89521 USA
The Biggest Little City In The World
Mail: garythepartsdoc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:garythepartsdoc%40glnelson.com> 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of Marianne
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:01 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
Cc: Sean Morgan
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300 D AC finshing touches!......& Fuel Pump
issues!!

Hello out there in 300 land!

Had the D completed for an important Chrysler event down under last
weekend! All was well, fully detailed, with 150 miles on the clock and
not an issue, Then.......Failed fuel pump and unfortunately then the
eccentric, on the way to the event!!

I sourced the pump from Kanters, after providing details & year of the
car, and they furnished what I believed to be an original style & fit
pump with the '58 fuel bowl underside. It went in easy, probably on the
low side of the eccentric in retrospect, but pumped like a champion
without any noise or issue for at least 150 miles. I figured it was
perfect! The horrible reality was that I think it was bottoming out in
the block pump arm cavity slightly, but this was loading up the
eccentric on the high side, until ultimately the pump arm had a radius
1/8" deep worn into it, and a similar groove in the eccentric, until the
eccentric failed and cut loose inside!

The wear was very uniform, and the pump was engaging the eccentric
squarely, even a professional mechanic didn't question its
function........until now!!

Rather tragic when you have a fully restored car stranded in the middle
of no mans land! I am sure many can relate to this however.

Has any body had any similar experiences with Kanter sourced pumps? Any
ideas on the correct and best original style pump to obtain?

I would hope this might act as a warning to other unsuspecting victims
of these pumps, which look the part, but aren't!

Also, would any body have source or ideas for rebuilt AC heater taps,
along for the oil control solenoid that controls the damper? Both mine
are leaking respectively.

I am also chasing the little fill in piece in the middle of the lower
inside window garnish, the matt black one on top of the dash for a '58.
kind of where the '57 mirror mount goes.

Regards

Sean in OZ

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