Re: [Chrysler300] Fw: Information on Buying Gas.

["Michael Reed" <mrreed@xxxxxxxxx>]

We've been through some of this subject matter before on this forum. 

Everyone should be reminded that purchasing fuel in the early morning does not result in getting "contracted" volume fuel. The variation in volume due to temperature only occurs when the fuel is stored in an environment subject to temperature change. Below the (comparitively shallow) frost line, the temperature of the earth stays relatively constant year-round. Most underground fuel tanks are below the frost line -- the fuel drawn when pumping has invariably been resting below the frost line.

We don't have vapor return mechanisms in Michigan, so the speed of filling the tank is relatively immaterial here, at least. It may make a difference at locations where there is a vapor recovery system. 

 Mike Reed in Lake Odessa, Michigan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Barker 
  To: Listsaver 300 Club 
  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:13
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Fw: Information on Buying Gas.


  This article is for Chrysler 300's only. Deep in the Article they talk about how fast the new Gas evaporates. I think this answers why we are having starting problems when are cars sit to long. Gary Barker

  From: Richard Felixson 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:33 AM
  To: Wayne Claypoole ; tom hay ; sol becker ; Ron Painter ; Rewenner127@xxxxxxx ; ray calkins ; new jerri ; marvin EL ; MARVIN DENNIS ; Lori Gordon ; Les Lorenzo ; jim west ; J tobin ; Gary Johnson ; eddie t bowling ; Ed Son Tobin ; ed Collar Collar ; don anthony ; dolores esoenscheid ; deb & mom ; darlene carmody ; crist sysco ; claudia ; carlene lopez ; Bob Dyke ; Big Bowling Buddy ; Berniee ; Ben Hahn 
  Subject: FW: 

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  From: eevansles@xxxxxxx [mailto:eevansles@xxxxxxx]
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:17 AM
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  Subject: tips on pumping gas

  TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information) 
  I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California 
  we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is 
  in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of 
  your money's worth for every gallon.. 

  Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver 
  about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is 
  diesel the next day is j et fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. 
  We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

  Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground 
  temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their 
  storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the 
  gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon 
  or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum 
  business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel 
  and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. 
  A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the 
  service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps. 

  When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast 
  mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, 
  middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby 
  minimizing the vapors that are c reated while you are pumping. All hoses at 
  the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of 
  the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being 
  sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less 
  worth for your money. 

  One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF 
  FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your 
  tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster 
  than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating 
  roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the 
  atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here 
  where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that 
  every gallon is actually the exact amount. 

  Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage 
  tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is 
  being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some 
  of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. 

  Hope this will help you get the most value for your money. 

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