Torsion bars are the same length on the New Yorker and Saratoga as the 300. it's a long wheelbase car thing. Clones are always going to be possible and if done well not detectable. That's just the way it is. Lee in San Diego -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James McMullan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 7:14 PM To: Listserver Subject: [Chrysler300] A thought on clone protection On the F & G the torsion bars are thicker by about 1/4 inch also longer by about two inches (the rear attache point is moved aft) I think it is impossible to swap bares between a letter car and and a clone downer without a heck of a lot of work.So a simple measurement on the bar dia.Should give a pretty good clue.Dont know if it holds true for all torsion bar cares.But am sure someone in the club would know and also be able to give the exact specks ? Jim McMullan 300 F James McMullan macthehammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/