Seems to me that any small loss of privacy(also chances are that any information that you think is secret is already well known to anyone who may be interested) to further the aim of getting the uninsured miscreants off the road is worth it. California has somewhat the same laws on registration and insurance but there is a cottage industry of insurance companies selling a policy, the auto owner registers his vehicle and then allows insurance to lapse. I guess that no one has figured out in this day of computers and networks how to set up a system so that when one loses his insurance, the state's database cannot be set up to invalidate the registration of a vehicle. Sounds like a good idea to me, but California's government is not known for good ideas. I would carry it one step further and impound and sell any vehicle which is found to be on our streets without insurance, but again I guess this would logical. Also the minimum liability insurance in our state(and probably yours) is way too low. Many states are like 15,000--30,000--5,000 which pays not even close to what any serious accident can cost a victim. By the way the 5,000 is for property damage. How many totaled automobiles can be replaced for 5,000? I ride motorcycles. How far will 15,000 go toward putting me back together? It is for this reason that I carry extremely large coverage's on my motorcycles and cars--1 million dollar liability which allows me to have 250,000 uninsured/under motorists. And of course in our great state we have a couple of million illegal aliens on our streets many of whom have no drivers license's, no insurance, and driving vehicles with the handling characteristics of a Wells Fargo stagecoach and driving skills to match. But as is so often the case in California, draconian laws to enforce insurance requirements is looked as just another method to trounce on the rights of the downtrodden. To hell with those who are the victims of these miscreants. Roger Schaaf 300 B, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Tomlinson" <tomlin@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Chrysler 300 club" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] Collector Car Insurance Group, 1. I don't wish to restart the lengthy discussion we had on collector car insurance from months ago. I have a different tack to take on the subject. 2. I have had Condon and Skelly for quite a few years. This year as a condition of renewal, they are requiring that I provide a copy of the registration of each insured vehicle so they can contact my state, Illinois, in a timely manner to appraise the state of my insured status. Should I have insured vehicles that are not licensed for use on the road, I am to provide a copy of the Title for the same purpose. 3. Now, Illinois, being fed up with all the uninsured drivers despite law requiring liability insurance, has a new law effective 1 Jan 05 that you must present proof of insurance when you register or renew registration. 4. Is Condon and Skelly being overly cautious? Is there a danger in having this information "out there" and likely in an automated database? I do know that when I was stationed in Germany in the latter 70's the Secretary of State's office sent someone to verify that my previously licensed auto, which was not renewed and the plates were off, battery pulled, etc., was indeed "non-operational" since I didn't have a record with them of liability insurance. Dad had to take them to the storage facility and unlock it to show them the car--which was inspected at length. 5. I get goosey when folks start asking for information, which includes personal details, and will likely store such on automated data bases with so so security. Does anyone know if this is the demands of the industry now??? Thanks, Tim Tomlinson 2 X 300-K's 1 68 New Yorker [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Meet the McDonald¿s® Lincoln Fry get free digital souvenirs, Web-only video and bid on the Lincoln Fry prop charity auction. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2YkgMD/fV0JAA/Y3ZIAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/