ray; while i agree with you 100%, i have to wonder just how the informer can avoid being dissed and excoriated by john h and the ''legion of purity'' for daring to post a non 300 related bit of info to the listserver. the censors are being quite sucessful, listserver traffic is way down, and it seems that the pendulum of public opinion has been lassoed and restrained in their court. can you suggest a cure for this? as i, for one, prefer a bit less rigidity in the use ''rules'' and a more free wheeling discussion of moparallia, as 300's are not my only love, but this club is my only listserver and source of information. JEFF tucson az.